Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-14 Thread Roger Leigh
Aurélien GÉRÔME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: >> as described in >> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt >> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count >> correctly are

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and th

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Request for virtual package ircd"): > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > m-t-a's must conflict because they are required by policy to provide a > > sendmail program at a fixed filesystem location. > > I was abo

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Michael Poole
Brian May writes: >> "Michael" == Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael> Why do you think these servers conflict with each other? > > ... because, generally speaking, the servers will be automatically > installed at installation, and if the port is in use, then > installati

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Roger Leigh
Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name. > > I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or > "hypertext-transfer-protocol-server". That's a hist

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-13 Thread Brian May
> "Michael" == Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Why do you think these servers conflict with each other? ... because, generally speaking, the servers will be automatically installed at installation, and if the port is in use, then installation may fail. Also, the server

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > m-t-a's must conflict because they are required by policy to provide a > sendmail program at a fixed filesystem location. I was about to say the same thing earlier, but then realized that we *could* deal with that via alternatives. And there's actuall

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 08:54:15AM +0200, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:34:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > It's also possible to run multiple FTP servers, each listening on a > > different port, but all the packaged ftp daemons "Conflicts: > > ftp-server". > That is bad, I

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread Joe Smith
"Jeremy Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:14:19AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: Ok, this is a good argument. I think the oppinion is more or less clear: Some people think it would be a nice idea, BUT it can be also a problem because so

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:14:19AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > Ok, this is a good argument. > I think the oppinion is more or less clear: > > Some people think it would be a nice idea, BUT it can be also a problem > because some people want more than one Ircd on a system. > > I only wanted to ask

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > Hello, > > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-12 Thread Mario Iseli
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 08:55:57AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Those packages should not depend on ircd anyway, because the service and > the ircd can run on different systems. Ok, this is a good argument. I think the oppinion is more or less clear: Some people think it would be a nice idea, B

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 12/10/06 at 00:10 +0200, Mario Iseli wrote: > Hello, > > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they > lo

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 06:34:41PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > It's also possible to run multiple FTP servers, each listening on a > different port, but all the packaged ftp daemons "Conflicts: > ftp-server". That is bad, IMO. (and chance to raise my opinion about virtual packages ;) ) Conflicts

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/06 17:58, Mario Iseli wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name. > > I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or > "hypert

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/06 17:50, tony mancill wrote: > Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> as described in >>> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt >>> I announce here my idea of the v

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Poole
Mario Iseli writes: > Hello, > > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they > logically conflict with each

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Mario Iseli
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 12:38:03AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Wouldn't "relay-chat-server" or "relay-chat-daemon" be a better name. I think no, we also call it "httpd" and not "web-server" or "hypertext-transfer-protocol-server". > Only if they really work with _all_ of them, even new ones.

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread tony mancill
Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as described in >> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt >> I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count >> correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 12, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they > logically

Re: Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 12 Oktober 2006 00:10 schrieb Mario Iseli: > as described in > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt > I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count > correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they > logi

Request for virtual package ircd

2006-10-11 Thread Mario Iseli
Hello, as described in http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt I announce here my idea of the virtual package ircd. When I count correctly are at the moment 7 different IRC-daemons in Debian and they logically conflict with each other. So I would think an officia