Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/26/2018 10:40 AM, Ondrej Novy wrote: > problem is that nobody want's to cooperate with you, that's all. All > other arguments are useless. I already explained to you many times what > is problem. Excuse my words, but that's plain bullshit. A year ago, I did nothing for the OpenStack Ocata re

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-26 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Scott, > Bullseye will be Django 2.0, which is Python 3 only. (Indeed. The only complication is that as we rejected having a seperate source package for Django 2.x can't then upload this version to unstable. It is, however, available in experimental.) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' :

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-26 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi, 2018-04-26 13:27 GMT+02:00 Scott Kitterman : > I know very little about the details of OpenStack, but in case a somewhat > parallel example is useful, that's approximately what Django will do. > Bullseye will be Django 2.0, which is Python 3 only. Buster is the pivot > release where the thir

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:40:49 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: ... > we need Buster stable period for Py2->Py3 migration. We are going to be > ready for Py3-only for Bullseye. Thousands of servers, millions lines of > code. ... I know very little about the details of OpenStack, but in case a somewhat

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-26 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi, 2018-04-26 0:49 GMT+02:00 Thomas Goirand : > > - faster build time (no need to test with Python 2, so less chances > of > > build failure). > > > > build is done once, customer happiness is for years (buster lifetime). > > More work ... > more work for machines (build time). I never

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/25/2018 11:59 AM, Ondrej Novy wrote: > 2018-04-25 11:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Goirand >: > > - faster build time (no need to test with Python 2, so less chances of > build failure). > > build is done once, customer happiness is for years (buster lifetime). More

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-25 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi, 2018-04-25 11:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Goirand : > > - faster build time (no need to test with Python 2, so less chances of > build failure). > build is done once, customer happiness is for years (buster lifetime). - no chance to have any Python 2 packages installed, so we're sure we're > on a fu

Re: Removing Python 2 support in OpenStack [was: Please do not drop Python 2 modules]

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/25/2018 09:39 AM, Ondrej Novy wrote: > Hi, > > 2018-04-25 9:06 GMT+02:00 Thomas Goirand >: > > I would like to start dropping Python 2 as early as possible though. The > only question that remains is: how many people still have Python 2 only > code using