Re: Release file changes

2011-02-24 Thread Luca Niccoli
On 24 February 2011 11:29, Luca Niccoli wrote: > Did Packages.diff/Index use to contain an MD5sum? (it doesn't as of now) > Or is this some unrelated breakage? Mmm, if worked using ftp.debian.org, so it was a mirror problem I guess. Aptitude and apt didn't have any problems with it though. Sorr

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-24 Thread Luca Niccoli
On 21 February 2011 15:39, Joey Hess wrote: > Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. cowbuilder --create fails with: W

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-23, Holger Levsen wrote: >> - wheezy is released. (This is the option I dont really favor, takes >> ages :) ) > I actually prefer this very much over more random breakage in which is > supposed to be stable. 2 years aint that long. Seconded. If it would've been urgent it should'

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 22. Februar 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > - lenny is gone and the tools are fixed in squeeze with a point > update (provided the SRMs approve such updates, but I *hope* so). Do I understand correctly that you again plan to break squeeze, this time for those who then havent

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 02/22/2011 07:37 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until eithe

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Joey Hess wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: > > Joerg Jaspert writes: > > > Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until either one of > > > the following happens: > > > > > - lenny is gone and the tools are fixed in squeeze with a point > > > update (provided

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Joey Hess
Russ Allbery wrote: > Joerg Jaspert writes: > > > Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until either one of > > the following happens: > > > - lenny is gone and the tools are fixed in squeeze with a point > > update (provided the SRMs approve such updates, but I *hope* so).

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Joerg Jaspert writes: > Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until either one of > the following happens: > - lenny is gone and the tools are fixed in squeeze with a point > update (provided the SRMs approve such updates, but I *hope* so). > Until today we discovered: >

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: > MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include > MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. Right. For now I undo this (with next dinstall run), until either one of the following happens: - lenny

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 21. Februar 2011, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Yep. debmirror, reprepro, debootstrap and cdebootstrap seem to be the > tools that can't deal with this. fai-mirror came to my mind. And probably older dak setups as well? > The latter two are serious enough to > keep the change away from

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 12398 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: > >>> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >>> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >>> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. >> Wh

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> Also, it seems like the Releases file is already including sha1 and >> sha256 for all the d-i files. > Nope. Those Release files in debian-installer subdir are just stubs and > don't contain checksum information. And there was nothing for > installer-$ARCH subdirs and the image files therein. In

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 02/21/2011 09:05 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 12398 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: > >>> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >>> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >>> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. >> When will

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Joey Hess [Mon, Feb 21 2011, 05:32:00PM]: > Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Yep. debmirror, reprepro, debootstrap and cdebootstrap seem to be the > > tools that can't deal with this. The latter two are serious enough to > > keep the change away from oldstable forever, and stable at least until

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-02-21, Joey Hess wrote: > > --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> Yep. debmirror, reprepro, debootstrap and cdebootstrap seem to be the >> tools that can't deal

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joey Hess
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Yep. debmirror, reprepro, debootstrap and cdebootstrap seem to be the > tools that can't deal with this. The latter two are serious enough to > keep the change away from oldstable forever, and stable at least until > after next point release, should they get updated there. I

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. >>> Please don't. I have more faith in SHA-256 than SHA-512. >> Uhh, fine - why? > I think this questi

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> >>> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >> >>> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >> >>> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. >> >> When will that affect Release files for stable? Next point release? >> >> Because that

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread The Fungi
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 09:13:51PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Care to make a point for the gpg stuff around it within bug > #612657? Gladly! Restating and Cc'ing... While I agree that moving away from SHA-1 is necessary, SHA-512 is not part of the compatibility set according to the gpg(1) manp

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joerg Jaspert: >>> I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so >>> we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop >>> SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. >> Please don't. I have more faith in SHA-256 than SHA-512. > > Uhh, fine - why? I thi

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 20:58 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >>> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: > >>> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include > >>> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. > >> When will that affect Release file

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-21, Joerg Jaspert wrote: until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. >>> When will that affect Release files for stable? Next poin

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> It might be worth approaching from a pragmatic perspective... why > generate SHA-512 checksums when you're only going to be signing a > SHA-256 digest of that list (that is unless you want to alienate > users of OpenPGP-compliant tools which don't implement optional > algorithms). Is it because

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so >> we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop >> SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. > Please don't. I have more faith in SHA-256 than SHA-512. Uhh, fine - why? -- bye, Joerg Well, it's 1 a

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so >> we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop >> SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. > Unfortunately, the algorithm used for the GnuPG signatures (both in > InRelease and Release.gpg) is SHA-1.

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12398 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: >> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. > When will that affect Release files for stable? Next point rele

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>>> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >>> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >>> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. >> When will that affect Release files for stable? Next point release? >> Because that unfortunatly

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread The Fungi
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 01:05:02PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > What indications are there that SHA-512 is weak? It might be worth approaching from a pragmatic perspective... why generate SHA-512 checksums when you're only going to be signing a SHA-256 digest of that list (that is unless you wa

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:55:13 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Joerg Jaspert: > > > I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so > > we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop > > SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. > > Please don't. I have

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joerg Jaspert: > I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so > we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop > SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. Please don't. I have more faith in SHA-256 than SHA-512. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-21, Joey Hess wrote: > Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: >> MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include >> MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. > When will that affect Release files for stable

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 07:03:11PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > I additionally opened a bug with apt to add support for SHA512SUM, so > we can start using them. As soon as that is possible I intend to drop > SHA256 and end up with SHA1/SHA512 only. Unfortunately, the algorithm used for the GnuPG

Re: Release file changes

2011-02-21 Thread Joey Hess
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > until today our Release files included 3 Hashes for all their entries: > MD5SUM, SHA1, SHA256. I just modified the code to no longer include > MD5SUM in *all* newly generated Release files. When will that affect Release files for stable? Next point release? Because that unfo