On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:28:26PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>
> The majority of my packages are comaintained with the Pkg-perl group -
> Yes, they are usually quite simple packages. However, what we have
> usually done is that whoever has time to fix an issue just goes ahead
> and does it - Up to
Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:27:36AM +0200]:
> * Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
>
> | I don't think co-maintenance needs to be a "must", but I totally
> | agree that is always possitive and it should be encouraged someway.
>
> No, it is not always positive. Co-maintainence means you
Hi, Jeroen.
Thank you very much for your reply.
On May 23 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> There is the MIA effort, led by myself, that does periodically look for
> activity for all maintainers and inquire if activity is lacking.
That's nice to know. I regard this as a QA task that the proje
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:01:55AM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> I think Debian would be healthier if tags were properly used in DBTS (as this
> helps others to also fix bugs).
I'd be really surprised if the major obstacle we're facing with regard
to bug fixing were procedural things
On Tue, May 24, 2005 10:27, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> No, it is not always positive. Co-maintainence means you have a way,
> way higher overhead at maintaining the package. I don't have to coordinate
> uploads, checkins and so on with myself, for packages with comaintainers,
> I do.
It does not h
* Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
| I don't think co-maintenance needs to be a "must", but I totally
| agree that is always possitive and it should be encouraged someway.
No, it is not always positive. Co-maintainence means you have a way,
way higher overhead at maintaining the package. I don't have
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Just a thought. How about setting up an aging system for who can fix the
> bugs.
We have that already. Everybody can sent in patches, and everybody can do
NMUs if they take responsibility and if they try not to step on maintainers
toes. Effectively we do
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just a thought. How about setting up an aging system for who can fix the
> bugs. Give the maintainer N time period to act on the bug and then if
> the maintainer can not fix it or will not fix it, other folks who have a
> patch should be able to apply to fi
Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just a thought. How about setting up an aging system for who can fix the
> bugs. Give the maintainer N time period to act on the bug and then if
> the maintainer can not fix it or will not fix it, other folks who have a
> patch should be able to apply to fi
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 01:46:43AM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:42, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo escribió:
> > El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:27, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió:
> > > Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > For example, the maintainer
El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió:
> Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > IMHO, after a year, the bug should have been fixed, otherwise it should
> > be tagged "help", and ideally the maintainer should write a short
> > explanation about why he is unable
Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> IMHO, after a year, the bug should have been fixed, otherwise it should be
> tagged "help", and ideally the maintainer should write a short explanation
> about why he is unable to fix the bug (so that other people can really help
> him).
I
El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:42, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo escribió:
> El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:27, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió:
> > Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For example, the maintainer asked for more info, the user submitted the
> > > requested info, and then there
El Martes 24 Mayo 2005 01:27, Thomas Bushnell BSG escribió:
> Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For example, the maintainer asked for more info, the user submitted the
> > requested info, and then there was no activity in the BTS for a year.
>
> What exactly do you want the m
Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For example, the maintainer asked for more info, the user submitted the
> requested info, and then there was no activity in the BTS for a year.
What exactly do you want the maintainer to do in this case?
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El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 23:22, Mark Brown escribió:
> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:14:45PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> > I was refering to bugs without any activity (ignored bugs).
>
> If you mean bugs with no response ever rather than bugs that have just
> not seen any reponse recently sa
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:14:45PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> I was refering to bugs without any activity (ignored bugs).
If you mean bugs with no response ever rather than bugs that have just
not seen any reponse recently saying something like "no response" rather
than "no activity
Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe a polite email from the MIA effort to maintainers with
> long-standing bugs (and no activity on them) could help. Something like:
> "Your package has the following long-standing bugs:
> # Description
> # Description
> Remember
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:20, Thijs Kinkhorst escribió:
> On Mon, May 23, 2005 12:56, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> > Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve
> > all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider
> > to accept a co-maintainer
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 17:09, Hamish Moffatt escribió:
> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 04:30:49PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> > El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió:
> > > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo
wrote:
> > > > Remember that Debian m
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 04:30:49PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió:
> > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> > > Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve
> > > all bu
On Mon, May 23, 2005 12:56, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve
> all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to
> accept a co-maintainer or to orphan the package."
I'd like to see it differently: co
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 16:24, Hamish Moffatt escribió:
> On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> > Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve
> > all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider
> > to accept a
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:56:07PM +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and solve all
> bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please consider to accept
> a co-maintainer or to orphan the package."
A lot of bugs are
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:32:55AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> I do plan to start up a more structural package checking effort after
> Sarge is released, hopefully addressing at least part of your concerns.
Bring back the maintainer ping!
Hamish
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[Cesar Martinez Izquierdo]
> Remember that Debian maintainers' obligations include to track and
> solve all bugs, not only RC-bugs. If you are in lack of time, please
> consider to accept a co-maintainer or to orphan the package."
I think a lot of maintainers would be happy to accept a co-maintai
El Lunes 23 Mayo 2005 12:32, Jeroen van Wolffelaar escribió:
> There is the MIA effort, led by myself, that does periodically look for
> activity for all maintainers and inquire if activity is lacking.
> However, this takes a bit of time, and also, it does benefit to have
> tips about specific main
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:55:30AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
> On May 22 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > Rog?rio Brito wrote:
> > > In my very humble and uninformed opinion, some maintainers should
> > > really give up maintaining their packages or should try to get other
> > > people as co-m
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:55:30AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
> > I have seen cases of maintainers that have packages with may bug reports,
> > without any indication of an intent to fix them.
>
> Exactly. It is a frustration to have a bug filed for, say, almost one year
> (Lack of time during on
On May 22 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
> > In my very humble and uninformed opinion, some maintainers should
> > really give up maintaining their packages or should try to get other
> > people as co-maintainers, if they lack the time to fix their
> > packages. :-(
> >
> >
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