Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-21 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: > > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > > Before you do that: Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-21 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote: > Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info > in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days? > > Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take > more time. As long as peo

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-15 Thread Christian Marillat
Paul TBBle Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: >> Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in >> debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/ffmpeg.html? > > Only ffmpeg-dev is in Debian as ffmpeg upstream recom

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-15 Thread Jari Aalto
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi David! > > About ITP's, they should be retitled to RFPs, rather than closed. That > way, other people can have a go at packaging the software. > I concur. If someone did not produce a packge withing NN days (say 3 months) after ITP, the system shoul

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: > > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > > Before you do that: Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote: > Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info > in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days? > > Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take > more time. As long as peo

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: > Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in > debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/ffmpeg.html? Only ffmpeg-dev is in Debian as ffmpeg upstream recommends static linking due to not having fixed the API/AB

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian Marillat wrote: >> Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Package already in Debian : gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg > > Ops, then it should be closed. > > Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in Normaly, encode

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
Christian Marillat wrote: > Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>David Moreno Garza wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > [...] > > >>- note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: >> >>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.c

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Moreno Garza wrote: >> On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [...] > - note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=203211 > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bu

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
David Moreno Garza wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > >>>But my intention was not to read the whole list and do this by hand! >>>This should be done by the same script which sends the sem automated >>>mails to the BTS. >> >>As there is a consensus that it is a goo

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi David! You wrote: > Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will > close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > tomorrow noon-, by tomorrow night). I'll point to documentatio

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Samuelsson
David Moreno Garza @ 2005-09-13 (Tuesday), 18:06 (-0500) > Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will > close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater > than 600 days by tonight Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source > has diseappeared. > Old ITPs should be turned into RFPs, not closed. I don't agree. If there's no current interest in having the package created, having the bug open actually

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source >>has diseappeared. > > The spectacular amount of clutter they provide -- rendering the wnpp bug list > unreadable unless you ignore them all -- combined

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:47 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source > has diseappeared. > > Old ITPs should be turned into RFPs, not closed. Well, actually the wnpp bugs are probably the dirtiest part on the BTS: Understanding dirti

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >There is no good reason to close old RFPs unless the upstream source >has diseappeared. The spectacular amount of clutter they provide -- rendering the wnpp bug list unreadable unless you ignore them all -- combined with their total uselessness? Seems like a pair of go

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will > close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > tomorrow noon-, by tomorrow night).

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > But my intention was not to read the whole list and do this by hand! > > This should be done by the same script which sends the sem automated > > mails to the BTS. > > As there is a consensus that it is a good idea to close long-inactiv

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 20:36, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: > > Maybe some usertags-hack? > > That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc > 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. > > [1] http://wi

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Mohammed Adnène Trojette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-13 22:21]: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: > > Maybe some usertags-hack? > > That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc > 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. > > [1] http

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 21:35]: [ vote for RFPs ] > > Currently everyone interested in such a package could send a "me too" > > mail to the report... > That isn't going to do much good if nobody ever reads them. > > For a "me too" thing to be useful, it needs to be immediatel

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:06:22PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > * David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 19:11]: > > > Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us > > > which missing packages are most wanted? > > Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Radu Spineanu
> "Radu Spineanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> At least something that has the ability to put ITPs,RFPs in separate >> pages, > > You mean like http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/? > Yes, something like that. But change the information shown on each page depending of the type of wnpp entry. Fo

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 19:11]: > > Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us > > which missing packages are most wanted? > Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could > work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Curre

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:36 +0200, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/WNPPBugsTagging This is a great work, thanks. Is there any plan to start using it and tagging? Cheers, -- David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.damog.net/ <[EMAIL P

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Christoph Berg wrote: > Maybe some usertags-hack? That is exactly what we are working on, with Clément Stenac and Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt. Here[1] is a list of tags we intend to use. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/WNPPBugsTagging Please no Cc:, I read the list. -- Mohammed Adn

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:06 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > > Maybe it would a good idea to create a new web interface for the wnpp bugs. > > At least something that has the ability to put ITPs,RFPs in separate > > pages, > > You mean like http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/? But the prop

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: David Moreno Garza in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could > work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Maybe some usertags-hack? But then, the people who know how that works could as well package the RFP themselves... Christoph -- [

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 13:05 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Perhaps we should have some voting mechanism, to let users tell us > which missing packages are most wanted? Probably something like a rfp-request-seconded tag on the bug could work. Although rfp-request is somehow redundant. Cheers,

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
"Radu Spineanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / >> suggest software to be packaged? >> >> I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of some >> 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I have

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Brian Nelson
Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > * Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 02:46]: > [ long RFPs ] >> Or don't even open RFP bugs in the first place because they're >> thoroughly useless? > > Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / > suggest s

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Radu Spineanu
> Hi! > > Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / > suggest software to be packaged? > > I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of some > 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I have some > time - it's just that it's difficu

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Alexander Schmehl] > I don't think RFPs per se are useless - actually I have a list of > some 20 RFPs I would like to take a deeper look to, as soon as I > have some time - it's just that it's difficult to look at so many > wnpps. I agree. There are packages I would like to assist into the archi

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 02:46]: [ long RFPs ] > Or don't even open RFP bugs in the first place because they're > thoroughly useless? Do you have a proposal for a better way on how our users can request / suggest software to be packaged? I don't think RFPs per se are useles

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-13 10:37]: >> There was a discussion about closing old RFPs on -project in the middle >> of July (around the 13th, I think). I really should get acting on the >> consensus of that thread and close the old RFPs.

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-13 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-13 10:37]: > ti, 2005-09-13 kello 01:45 +0200, Alexander Schmehl kirjoitti: > > Close RFP after ... uhm... let's say 1 year inactivity and send the > > submitter an apology, that we couldn't find a volunteer for the > > requested package, should to

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: >> Hi, >> If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of >> open bugs which are very very old. >> Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug >> automatically after the t

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-09-13 kello 01:45 +0200, Alexander Schmehl kirjoitti: > Close RFP after ... uhm... let's say 1 year inactivity and send the > submitter an apology, that we couldn't find a volunteer for the > requested package, should to very well. There was a discussion about closing old RFPs on -project

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050913 00:47]: > Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug > automatically after the third semi automatic notice mail > which is sent to the BTS entry? What is the purpose of this mail? Either there is someone interested in packaging it, or you won't

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Andrew Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-13 01:07]: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi, > > If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of > > open bugs which are very very old. > > Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug > > aut

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-12 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:47:33AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > If you go through the list of wnpp bugs you will see alot of > open bugs which are very very old. > Especially the RFPs. What about closing an RFP bug > automatically after the third semi automatic notice mail > which is sent to