Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-30 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:05:29AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-send > > /command/supervise > > DJB bug. The correct answer: Difference of opinion. > (And a symlink doesn't make the software FHS-compliant.) In the case of qmail-send[

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:05:29AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called as > > foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-send > /command/supervise > These are what are expected when you use qmai

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
John H. Robinson, IV (29/09/2009): > These are what are expected when you use qmail and daemontools the > DJB way. > > http://cr.yp.to/unix.html > > We solve the first one with /var/qmail/bin being a symlink to > /usr/sbin. We don't solve the latter one at all. > > Debian bug, or DJB bug? T

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 29 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 11:43 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : >> Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good >> idea. I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called >> as foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. >

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 29 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: >> Improving quality may be strictly unnecessary, and may be not directly >> productive, but that doesn't mean there's no good reason to expect it. > > Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good > idea. !!! If we

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 29 2009, George Danchev wrote: > I've also read people claiming that preserving extensions could > actually help evolving and migrations in the future and it is as > simple as app.lang1 being rewritten as app.lang2, both stay on board > as needed or for a reasonable amount of time, the

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Mike Hommey wrote: > > I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called as > foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. /var/qmail/bin/qmail-send /command/supervise These are what are expected when you use qmail and daemontools the DJB way. http://cr.yp.to/unix.html We solve the first

What is this rule for? (was: Re: renamings to remove extensions)

2009-09-29 Thread Andreas Tscharner
On 29.09.2009 08:21, Steve M. Robbins wrote: On the other hand, Section 10.4 says only "the script name should not include an extension". So you can leave the extension for What is the intention of this rule anyway? Thank you and best regards Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Josselin Mouette" : Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 11:43 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good idea. I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called as foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. Which is why lintian warn

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 11:43 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good > idea. I do agree that if everyone but Debian expects foo to be called > as foo.pl, there is a bug in Debian. Which is why lintian warnings are left at the apprec

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Peter Eisentraut wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:30 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: "Steve M. Robbins" writes: I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey writes: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:30:44PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > > > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. > > > > The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise > > the quality of software

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Mike Hommey [090929 11:43]: > > Improving quality may be strictly unnecessary, and may be not directly > > productive, but that doesn't mean there's no good reason to expect it. > > Improving quality only for the sake of it is not necessarily a good > idea. I do agree that if everyone but Debian

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:30 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. > > The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the > quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that commands are

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:30:44PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. > > The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the > quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that comman

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Finney
"Steve M. Robbins" writes: > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that commands are accompanied by man pages, or that the package synopsis should not