Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Eduard, Am 2006-05-14 11:26:48, schrieb Eduard Bloch: > > a) unbuildable > > b) uninstallable > > Only in the hands of unworthy[tm]. Not realy... > > Right solution is to use pbuilder, which will: > > > > a) always ensure that package can be built using unstable > > b) keep your build envi

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > d) Need lots of disk space > > Yeah, but disk space is cheap. > > > e) Take ages to unpack > > Take a look at sbuild, which can work with lvm snapshots. Theoretically pbuilder can work with lvm snapshots, if you use pbuilder with --no-targz option. That's how pbuilder-uml works (or us

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > While chrooted buildds make the generated binaries much more reliable, > > it removes an important test case for the source packages. Debian source > > packages are supposed to also work correctly when run in an unclean > > build environment. > > Because tools like sbuild need a dsc, I al

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Dirk Eddelbuettel [Sun, May 14 2006, 04:52:17PM]: > Eduard Bloch gmx.de> writes: > > > Right solution is to use pbuilder, which will: > > > > > > a) always ensure that package can be built using unstable > > > b) keep your build environment clean > > > c) keep your local system clean

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Roger Leigh
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060514 18:54]: >> e) yes, it may add a minute here or there, but pbuilder _dramatically_ >> increases your build reliability and saves you and the admins time as it >> prevents (build) bugs from propagating

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060514 18:54]: > e) yes, it may add a minute here or there, but pbuilder _dramatically_ > increases your build reliability and saves you and the admins time as it > prevents (build) bugs from propagating. Also, with proper uses of LVM and > snapshotting,

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Eduard Bloch wrote: > * Ondrej Sury [Sun, May 14 2006, 10:00:25AM]: > > Right solution is to use pbuilder, which will: > > > > a) always ensure that package can be built using unstable > > b) keep your build environment clean > > c) keep your local system clean > > d) Need lots of disk space Y

Re: pbuilder, and why not...

2006-05-14 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Eduard Bloch gmx.de> writes: > > Right solution is to use pbuilder, which will: > > > > a) always ensure that package can be built using unstable > > b) keep your build environment clean > > c) keep your local system clean > > d) Need lots of disk space > e) Take ages to unpack > f) Add more com