Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-15 Thread nick black
Sam Hartman left as an exercise for the reader: > Yes, absolutely. > I am familiar with nis/PAM/shadow/LDAP, have deployed NIS (although not > nisplus), and have been around long enough to understand the issues. > > It is absolutely reasonable to expect people who need to do so to > unshadow their

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-15 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 09:18:59AM -0500, nick black wrote: >Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: >> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 21:11:40 -0500, nick black >> wrote: >> >i'm absolutely not suggesting we stop supporting NIS or other >> >programs which rely on unshadowed passwords. it's a big ol'

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-14 Thread Sam Hartman
> "nick" == nick black writes: nick> it's 2023 and imho time to stop supporting unshadowed nick> passwords from the installer. Yes, absolutely. I am familiar with nis/PAM/shadow/LDAP, have deployed NIS (although not nisplus), and have been around long enough to understand the issues.

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-14 Thread nick black
Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 21:11:40 -0500, nick black > wrote: > >i'm absolutely not suggesting we stop supporting NIS or other > >programs which rely on unshadowed passwords. it's a big ol' > >tent, and we have more than enough room for you to carry forth

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 02:11:00PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:11:40PM -0500, nick black wrote: > > it's 2023 and imho time to stop supporting unshadowed passwords > > from the installer. > > > > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/user-setup/-/merge_requests/5 >

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 09:11:40PM -0500, nick black wrote: > it's 2023 and imho time to stop supporting unshadowed passwords > from the installer. > > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/user-setup/-/merge_requests/5 > > 1) nis (and possibly conserver?) seem the primary drivers of an >

Re: need we support unshadowed passwords from the installer

2023-01-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 21:11:40 -0500, nick black wrote: >i'm absolutely not suggesting we stop supporting NIS or other >programs which rely on unshadowed passwords. it's a big ol' >tent, and we have more than enough room for you to carry forth >the torch of Solaris 2. i just don't think this belongs