Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-23 Thread Marvin Renich
* Ansgar [210823 11:16]: > Hi Marvin, > > On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 10:29 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > > Yet they cannot be counted on to work on Debian now, nor will they on > > non- or partially-merged systems.  You are saying "the end result is > > thus, so the partially merged system must have t

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-23 Thread Ansgar
Hi Marvin, On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 10:29 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > Yet they cannot be counted on to work on Debian now, nor will they on > non- or partially-merged systems.  You are saying "the end result is > thus, so the partially merged system must have this property." No. I am comparing end

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-23 Thread Marvin Renich
* Ansgar [210822 17:29]: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 12:29 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > > * Ansgar [210822 05:08]: > > > To get a filesystem layout equivalent to merged-/usr via symlinks > > > farming *every* package shipping files in at least /usr/bin, > > > /usr/sbin and possibly some of

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 10:24:56PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > The point of the migration is that /usr/bin will be identical to /bin, > etc. If they are not identical, then it's not usrmerge as it is > understood and has been adopted by many upstreams for a decade, it's > something else that is i

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Ansgar
Hi, On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 12:29 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > * Ansgar [210822 05:08]: > > To get a filesystem layout equivalent to merged-/usr via symlinks > > farming *every* package shipping files in at least /usr/bin, > > /usr/sbin > > and possibly some of /usr/lib would need to include symli

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 12:29 -0400, Marvin Renich wrote: > * Ansgar [210822 05:08]: > > Hi Guillem, > > > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 00:11 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > There was talk about the huge amount of symlinks required in a > > > symlink farm setting, but that might have been true for a >

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 22.08.21 18:29, Marvin Renich wrote: The amount of work is orders of magnitude less than you are representing. There is no need for the symlink-farm to exactly match the symlink-dir solution. The union of systems during the symlink-farm merge and systems after the merge is complete can

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Marvin Renich
* Ansgar [210822 05:08]: > Hi Guillem, > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 00:11 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > There was talk about the huge amount of symlinks required in a > > symlink farm setting, but that might have been true for a scenario > > where those symlinks would have been handled automatical

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 11:08 +0200, Ansgar wrote: > Hi Guillem, > > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 00:11 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > There was talk about the huge amount of symlinks required in a > > symlink > > farm setting, but that might have been true for a scenario where > > those > > symlinks woul

Re: merged-/usr vs. partially-symlink-farmed-root

2021-08-22 Thread Ansgar
Hi Guillem, On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 00:11 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > There was talk about the huge amount of symlinks required in a > symlink > farm setting, but that might have been true for a scenario where > those > symlinks would have been handled automatically and transparently. To get a fi