Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:58:31PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > If we have a big comment at the top of the generated file > saying in effect "do not edit; edit /etc/inetd.conf.d/xxx and > run update-inetd", we shouldn't have too many problems. It's > already done elsewhere. Then move that file fa

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:22:50AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > > I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a > > config file fragment in e.g. /etc/inetd.d, and having update-inetd > > simply regenerate inetd.conf from these pieces (and it would > > be trivial for

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Roger Leigh writes ("Re: inetd's status in Debian"): > The fact that update-inetd directly updates inetd.conf and inetd.conf Since this was my fault, I would just like to apologise again. > I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a > config file fragm

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Brian May
Roger Leigh wrote: > I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a > config file fragment in e.g. /etc/inetd.d, and having update-inetd > simply regenerate inetd.conf from these pieces (and it would > be trivial for it to preserve user edits with this mechanism), > and it would also b

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:12:56AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2009-03-11 kello 00:00 +, Roger Leigh kirjoitti: > > Additionally, not all inetds support > > IPv6, so adding these lines will break some inetds. > > Should we consider lack of IPv6 support as a bug? > > Ah yes, it's been a

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-03-11 kello 00:00 +, Roger Leigh kirjoitti: > Additionally, not all inetds support > IPv6, so adding these lines will break some inetds. Should we consider lack of IPv6 support as a bug? Ah yes, it's been a release goal since etch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Most machines nowadays have enough memory, and most daemons provide a > standalone mode (I mean who configures apache as an inetd service ?). > Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that > it's prob

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:39:23AM +, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 07:31:35AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > >> I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:44:06AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 10, Luk Claes wrote: > > > Btw, lots of packages are depending on update-inetd while it's > > guaranteed to be available when depending on inet-superserver. > Indeed, this is broken. IIRC some helpful soul started reporting "b

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On moandei 9 Maart 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that > it's probably that nowadays users don't need a superserver at all[0]. > > I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy > goal for squeeze.

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 10, Luk Claes wrote: > Btw, lots of packages are depending on update-inetd while it's > guaranteed to be available when depending on inet-superserver. Indeed, this is broken. IIRC some helpful soul started reporting "bugs" asking to depend on update-inetd too... -- ciao, Marco signatur

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 07:31:35AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy > >> goal for squeeze. > > Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-09 Thread Luk Claes
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy >> goal for squeeze. > > Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Having a superserver installed isn't > broken. Why should every

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that > it's probably that nowadays users don't need a superserver at all[0]. Yes, and many users no longer have a superserver installed for that reason. > I'm