Re: elvis package

1998-04-25 Thread Raul Miller
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed, > >> or contain no GPLed parts. In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raul Miller writes: > >More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent > >compliance with the

Re: elvis package

1998-04-24 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raul Miller writes: >Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed, >> or contain no GPLed parts. > >More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent >compliance with the gpled

Re: elvis package

1998-04-23 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Alexey Marinichev wrote: > Anyway, I do not think we should have X support compiled in > vim, rather it should be a different package or something like > that. It's pretty bad debian policy forbids it. Do like I do with wmaker: compile several binaries[1]. One with X, one w

Re: elvis package

1998-04-23 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 06:27:03PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed, > > or contain no GPLed parts. > > More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent > compliance with the gpled parts. Uhh, the GPL does not state

Re: elvis package

1998-04-22 Thread Raul Miller
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed, > or contain no GPLed parts. More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent compliance with the gpled parts. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: elvis package

1998-04-22 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > >> This might look confusing but the situation is different as >> the author of vile is aware of the unfreeness and distributes >> new parts under the GPL. >> >> "the bulk of vile _cannot_ be covered by the GPL

Re: elvis package

1998-04-20 Thread Alexey Marinichev
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 01:30:36PM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote: > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > > made

Re: elvis package

1998-04-20 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:51:57PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > > > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > > > > > Nevertheless I'

Re: elvis package

1998-04-18 Thread r3chard
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > I wish you good luck contacting the author. Neither the former > elvis maintainer, Anders Something, nor me were able to contact > him. We both sent mail to him but didn't get any response. This > makes me very sad and angry about it. This is the r

Re: elvis package

1998-04-18 Thread Martin Mitchell
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Someone wrote: > > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > > >

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:51:57PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > > > Nevertheless I'm packaging it right now. > > You ask Martin not to work

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread James Troup
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > Nevertheless I'm packaging it right now. You ask Martin not to work on elvis because it's non-free but then announce you're working on the non-fr

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:38:01AM -0700, David Welton wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > > > We have about 4 or 5 other vi clones so there is no need for > > > re-packaging it. If you don't need it I'd appreciate you work > > > on better packages. > >

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 02:13:01PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > This fails #3 and #7 of the DFSG. (Bug#14953 from 16 Nov 1997) > > Ho hum.. the web server is still down. Unfortunately

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > This fails #3 and #7 of the DFSG. (Bug#14953 from 16 Nov 1997) Ho hum.. the web server is still down. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. > > Er... then why isn't it in non-free? Also, why is it our hig

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Someone wrote: > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > > made free. I wish you good luck contacting the author

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread aqy6633
> 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > made free. Vim 5 has *very* nice X interface for both Athena and Motif. I,

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > > is the only one with X suppo

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. Er... then why isn't it in non-free? Also, why is it our highest preference editor? Also, what aspect of the copyright notice puts

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread David Welton
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > We have about 4 or 5 other vi clones so there is no need for > > re-packaging it. If you don't need it I'd appreciate you work > > on better packages. > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. >

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:13:52AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim. > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be > made free

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I will take over the orphaned elvis package, unless someone else has already > > said they'll do it. > > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. We should not give up

Re: elvis package

1998-04-16 Thread Martin Schulze
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 03:22:46AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > I will take over the orphaned elvis package, unless someone else has already > said they'll do it. Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us, both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes. We have abo