Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? I really have no intention to peg the database up with a query like that. Here: $ zcat testing{,-proposed-updates}/main/binary-alpha/Packages.gz | grep-dctrl -n -s Pa

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:19:36PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > How much space do those 500 odd packages take up? > > Given a 50% sizce increase on binaries alpha should have another 1.8G > of debs. If those 500 packages make up 1.2G (+50%=1.8G) then the 50% > claim would be right. You're

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [resorted by size] > > > architecture |size > > > --+ > > > i386 | 3378532922 > > > i

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: > > > > [alpha]7283 > > > [i386] 7889 > > > > I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are > > i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers. > >

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-09-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [resorted by size] > > architecture |size > > --+ > > i386 | 3378532922 > > ia64 | 3394287226 > And people allways say that 64

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables. But the numbers quoted are for compressed executables. -- see shy jo pgpJrjjbpIoUt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: > > [alpha]7283 > > [i386] 7889 > > I'd not include non-free in the batch because many non-free on i386 are > i386 only, i.e. binary driver installers. Ah, well spotted, but still there's some significant difference: [EM

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 09:05:24PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Funny that the count difference is so large... let me double check: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dists$ zcat > testing{,-proposed-updates}/{main,contrib,non-free}/binary-alpha/Packages.gz > | grep-dctrl -s Package -F Architecture -

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And people allways say that 64 Bit archs need much bigger executables. > > Somehow alpha saves 328MB compared to i386 and a suggested 30-50% size > increase on binaries would mean a lot of packages are not available on >

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:27:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > > Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) > > > > FYI, this is the size

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) > > FYI, this is the size of all the binaries belonging to the given > architecture, in the specifies suites:

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-31 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030831 00:05]: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > > Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next > > 4-6 weeks ? > Drop potato? Or - allowing to act locally - put potato on an nfs-mounted volume (assuming t

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Diego Calleja García
El 30 Aug 2003 20:25:36 +0300 Heikki Vatiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >Since Linux 2.4.0 it is possible to remount part of the file >hierarchy somewhere else. The call is > mount --bind olddir newdir with 2.6 we also got mount --move olddir newdir 8)

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 30, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's harder within debian/ because you have to hand-pick parts of pool/ to >bind-mount... messy. BTDT. It's even harder because the archive contain hard links between random directories. -- ciao, | Marco | [1565 id6qO1u0SBERA]

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread jason andrade
On Sun, 30 Aug 2003, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: > [I am not on debian-devel but reading the list through Usenet gateway] i didn't realise debian-devel is gatewayed to a newsgroup.. interesting. > You may also want to see mount(8) and look for bind from the manual > page. Since there is not very muc

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next > 4-6 weeks ? Drop potato? -- - mdz

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > We are still waiting for Joey to officially announce the obsolescence of > potato on -announce so that it can be moved to archive.debian.org. I've found out today that Joey doesn't feel there should be any more announcements. I've sent

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:25:36PM +0300, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: > ftp.fi.debian.org has the whole debian/ on the same partition but a > couple of directories, such as debian-cd/, that were previously on the > same partition with the mirror root are now mounted from a new > location with the --bin

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Pray to god that testing and unstable stop diverging so much? :) FYI, this is the size of all the binaries belonging to the given architecture, in the specifies suites: architecture | any| unstable| u+t| u+t+s

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
[I am not on debian-devel but reading the list through Usenet gateway] jason andrade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /dev/sdf1100798036 98652428 2145608 98% /raid/lun1p1 > > and that is by moving a chunk of debian archives into another disk and > symlinking back in.. You may also

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Richard Atterer
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:18:50PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Is there any way to reduce the size of the archive over the next 4-6 > > weeks ? > > We are still waiting for Joey to officially announce the obsolescence of > potato on -announce so that it can be moved to archive.debian.org. That >

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread jason andrade
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: > /dev/sda3 97G 97G 470M 100.0 [] /bla /dev/sdf1100798036 98652428 2145608 98% /raid/lun1p1 and that is by moving a chunk of debian archives into another disk and symlinking back in.. > > Is there any way to

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern > over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of > the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult > technically for us to deal with this

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:29:16AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > What architectures are you mirroring? You could drop some of the more > uncommon arches No, he cannot, it's ftp.au.debian.org. All official mirrors have been, are or will be in a similar situation. -- 2. That which caus

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
jason andrade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern > over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of > the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult > technically for us to deal with this in the shor

Re: debian archive disk space requirements.

2003-08-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:40:34AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > > Hi, > > I've noticed the growth in the debian archive with some concern > over the last few weeks/months. We're now hitting the limit of > the partition that debian is on and it will be quite difficult > technically for us to dea