Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 30/04/14 03:45, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/26/2014 01:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> With all the talk about removing jquery from source packages, one thing >> that does arise is the question of how to support different jquery versions. >> >> This is not just a JavaScript issue though. Ma

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-05-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Charles, Op zaterdag 26 april 2014 14:29:44 schreef Charles Plessy: > Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:11:58PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > > > On Sat, Apr 26

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-30 Thread Alastair McKinstry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 modules.sourceforge.net is in debian as "environment-modules" regards Alastair On 30/04/2014 18:46, Steve Moss wrote: > Check out modules and lmod for this: > > http://modules.sourceforge.net > https://github.com/TACC/Lmod > > Cheers, > > Steve >

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-30 Thread Steve Moss
Check out modules and lmod for this: http://modules.sourceforge.net https://github.com/TACC/Lmod Cheers, Steve

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-30 Thread Ole Streicher
(I am Cc: debian-science, since this is probably specific to science) On 30.04.2014 03:45, Thomas Goirand wrote: > This is the exact same thing that happens with .so libraries, and > this should happen *only* when there's an API change (why would you > want to keep an older version otherwise?). B

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/26/2014 01:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > With all the talk about removing jquery from source packages, one thing > that does arise is the question of how to support different jquery versions. > > This is not just a JavaScript issue though. Maybe we can have > > libjs-jquery-1.7 >

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-29 Thread Adam Sampson
Jeremy Stanley writes: > An academic librarian friend of mine has been working with the various > departments at his institution to start producing and archiving > virtual machine images preconfigured for running the software used to > generate results corresponding to various publications, I'm

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:21:33AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> it would be a great advantage for Debian over the other distributions > >> to have the capacity to install multiple versions concurrently

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-04-27 20:50:38 -0700 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > Containers would be a better environment, but you have to make > them very, very simple to set up. [...] An academic librarian friend of mine has been working with the various departments at his institution to start producing and ar

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/04/14 21:16, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-04-28 20:10:09) >> On 28/04/14 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >>> Paul Wise dijo [Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800]: > a generalized approach is needed. Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-04-28 20:10:09) > On 28/04/14 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Paul Wise dijo [Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800]: > >>> a generalized approach is needed. > >> > >> Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the > >> same reasons as static libraries an

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/04/14 18:59, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Paul Wise dijo [Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800]: >>> a generalized approach is needed. >> >> Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same >> reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable. >> >> Systems t

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paul Wise dijo [Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800]: > > a generalized approach is needed. > > Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same > reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable. > > Systems that do this already exist though: > > https:

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Don Armstrong > On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > > And simultaneous installation of multiple versions of packages is > > simply a requirement for many research computing scenarios, usually > > because there's a lot of bespoke scientific code that accomplishes > > some specific goal b

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 27 avril 2014 à 17:16 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : > The right way to handle this for research computing scenarios is to > deploy virtual machines with specific versions otherwise you're > constantly battling with trying to make sure that you're actually using > the version that y

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 08:50:38PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Containers would be a better environment, but you have to make them very, > very simple to set up. You mean like something imaginary command like create_my_vm -- creating a virtual machine and installs with the specified version

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Don Armstrong writes: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: >> And simultaneous installation of multiple versions of packages is >> simply a requirement for many research computing scenarios, usually >> because there's a lot of bespoke scientific code that accomplishes some >> specific goal

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2014-04-28 2:16 GMT+02:00 Don Armstrong : > On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: >> And simultaneous installation of multiple versions of packages is >> simply a requirement for many research computing scenarios, usually >> because there's a lot of bespoke scientific code that accomplishes >> s

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > And simultaneous installation of multiple versions of packages is > simply a requirement for many research computing scenarios, usually > because there's a lot of bespoke scientific code that accomplishes > some specific goal but was not written to the sta

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> it would be a great advantage for Debian over the other distributions >> to have the capacity to install multiple versions concurrently. > No, no it wouldn't. > This is how rpm handles library packages.

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 26 avril 2014 07:07 CEST, Charles Plessy  : > it would be a great advantage for Debian over the other distributions to have > the capacity to install multiple versions concurrently. > > That does not mean that it would be a good idea to install multiple versions > of > core packages. However,

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/04/14 07:11, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a ←crit : >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > a generali

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:11:58PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > > a generalized approach is nee

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:07:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > a generalized approach is needed. > > Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the sam

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:41:17AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > a generalized approach is needed. > > Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same > reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesir

Re: concurrent installation of different pkg versions

2014-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > a generalized approach is needed. Multiple versions of a package seems undesirable to me, for the same reasons as static libraries and embedded code copies are undesirable. Systems that do this already exist though: https://nixos.org/ http