Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-10 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> This is only a small part of the whole story, IMHO. See zhaoway> my other email replying you. ;) >>> Maybe there could be another version of Packages.gz without >>>

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> Note: [1] Normally I try to find the files manually via Brian> lynx, but right at the moment this is rather difficult, as Brian> I seem to try numerous directories but not get the expected Brian> result. Some packages

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Brian May
> "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> This is only a small part of the whole story, IMHO. See zhaoway> my other email replying you. ;) >> Maybe there could be another version of Packages.gz without the >> extended descriptions -- I imagine they would tak

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "sluncho" == sluncho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sluncho> How hard would it be to make daily diffs of the Package sluncho> file? Most people running unstable update every other day sluncho> and this will require downloading and

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Brian May
> "sluncho" == sluncho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sluncho> How hard would it be to make daily diffs of the Package sluncho> file? Most people running unstable update every other day sluncho> and this will require downloading and applying only a sluncho> couple of diff files.

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread sluncho
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:40:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > > > time to download, but so do emacs and oth

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread zhaoway
From: Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:59:13 +1100 > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > > A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system. > > What is the real p

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread zhaoway
From: Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: big Packages.gz file Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:40:01 +1100 > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update, > > and for those of us w

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:04:58PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > > time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. > > Yeah, but how often do you download emacs? Never, I

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Miles Bader
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long > time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. Yeah, but how often do you download emacs? The packages file gets downloaded _every single time_ you do an update, and for

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > A big package index IMHO is the current bottleneck of Debian package system. What is the real problem with the large package files? They take a long time to download, but so do emacs and other bloatware. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <

Re: Linux Gazette [Was: Re: big Packages.gz file]

2001-01-08 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Jan 8, 2001 at 18:20:16 +0100 (+), Andreas Fuchs wrote: > On 2001-01-07, Goswin Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > zhaoway> 1) It prevent many more packages to come into Debian, for > > zhaoway> example, Linux Gazette are now not present newest issues > > zhaoway> i

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-08 Thread calvin
Hello, On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:04:10AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > * To seperate Packages.gz to be along with each package as another seperate > file. Ceazar's belong to Ceazar. ;) > i.e., each pkg_ver-sub_arch.deb with a pkg_ver-sub_arch.idx No, thats not a win. You would end up checking time

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-08 Thread zhaoway
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:18:02PM -0500, Chris Gray wrote: > > Brian May writes: > bm> What do large packages have to do with the size of the index file, > bm> Packages? > > I think the point was that every package adds about 30-45 lines to the > Packages file. You don't need to down

Re: Linux Gazette [Was: Re: big Packages.gz file]

2001-01-08 Thread Andreas Fuchs
On 2001-01-07, Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > zhaoway> 1) It prevent many more packages to come into Debian, for > zhaoway> example, Linux Gazette are now not present newest issues > zhaoway> in Debian. People occasionally got fucked up by packages > Any reasons why the

Linux Gazette [Was: Re: big Packages.gz file]

2001-01-07 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian May writes: > "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> 1) It prevent many more packages to come into Debian, for zhaoway> example, Linux Gazette are now not present newest issues zhaoway> in Debian. P

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Gray
> Brian May writes: > "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> 1) It prevent many more packages to come into Debian, for zhaoway> example, Linux Gazette are now not present newest issues zhaoway> in Debian. People occasionally got fucked up by packages zha

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Sam Couter
> On 2001-01-05, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do large packages have to do with the size of the index file, > > Packages? Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They waste one byte per multiple of 10 bytes of package size. (-; You mean one byte per order of magnitude of packa

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-06 Thread Andreas Fuchs
On 2001-01-05, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do large packages have to do with the size of the index file, > Packages? They waste one byte per multiple of 10 bytes of package size. (-; Bad joke? So sue me. -- Andreas Fuchs, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, antifuchs Hail R

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-05 Thread Brian May
> "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> 1) It prevent many more packages to come into Debian, for zhaoway> example, Linux Gazette are now not present newest issues zhaoway> in Debian. People occasionally got fucked up by packages zhaoway> like anachism-doc