Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/19/2012 05:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bernd Zeimetz writes: > >> That would require that the tech-ctte's decisions do not take months or >> years. They are fast if they really need to be, but in such general >> cases the time a descision takes is imho way too long and frustrating >> for a

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > That would require that the tech-ctte's decisions do not take months or > years. They are fast if they really need to be, but in such general > cases the time a descision takes is imho way too long and frustrating > for all involved people. I would prefer a solution which

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-19 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/18/2012 09:29 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Colin Watson > >> alioth is just a Debian-specific hosting site, not a general gateway to >> package maintenance. We're not set up for them to be dispute resolution >> for the whole of Debian, and they have no constitutional authority to do >>

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Michael Gilbert wrote: > Plus I don't have to find hosting for my work elsewhere, > which is kind of a pain and unwanted. This at least is easy to address. Alioth automatically notices per-user git repositories under ~/public_git[1]. Something similar works for other version contr

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Colin Watson > alioth is just a Debian-specific hosting site, not a general gateway to > package maintenance. We're not set up for them to be dispute resolution > for the whole of Debian, and they have no constitutional authority to do > that anyway. De-emphasising the role of alioth adminis

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > Nowhere in this process seems to be the notion that you should > contribute actual effort first before adding yourself as an uploader.  I > think that's important, particularly in the many situations where it's > not lack of packaging of a new

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 01:10:42PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > So anyway, enough explanation, on to my proposed solution. Seeing as > team spirit has been a quite effective antidote to stagnation, lets go > ahead and use that again. Here is my suggested process: Nowhere in this process seems

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Moray Allan wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> So anyway, enough explanation, on to my proposed solution.  Seeing as >> team spirit has been a quite effective antidote to stagnation, lets go >> ahead and use that again. > > I agree

Re: Volunteer-initiated team maintenance as a solution for packages with low activity

2012-04-18 Thread Moray Allan
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > So anyway, enough explanation, on to my proposed solution. Seeing as > team spirit has been a quite effective antidote to stagnation, lets go > ahead and use that again. I agree with the general intention, but not with the details of the