Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd

2014-09-07 Thread Cameron Norman
El sáb, 6 de sep 2014 a las 2:18 , Ansgar Burchardt escribió: Noel Torres writes: If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should Provides dbus. Then, if Ann programs her Own Dbus Implementation she can package it as aodi (Ann's Own Dbus Implementation) and have aodi Prov

Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread James McCoy
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:20:33AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 00:05:59 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Sep 06, Noel Torres wrote: > > > It is just wrong to have dependencies on the init system. > > > If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should > > >

Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 07, Guillem Jover wrote: > > This is why most of these dependencies are on libpam-systemd, which does > > not depend on systemd. > That's incorrect: What I meant was "does not depend on systemd being PID 1". Are you happy now? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signatur

Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 00:05:59 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 06, Noel Torres wrote: > > It is just wrong to have dependencies on the init system. > > If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should > > Provides dbus. > This is why most of these dependencies are on libpam-sy

Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd (Was: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 06, Noel Torres wrote: > It is just wrong to have dependencies on the init system. > If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should > Provides dbus. This is why most of these dependencies are on libpam-systemd, which does not depend on systemd. As usual, people complain

Re: There should not be dependencies on systemd

2014-09-06 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Noel Torres writes: > If you need dbus, you should Depend on dbus, and systemd should Provides > dbus. > Then, if Ann programs her Own Dbus Implementation she can package it as aodi > (Ann's Own Dbus Implementation) and have aodi Provides dbus. Same for logind > (systemd Provides logind and ra