Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: > > Well, the wiki page has a "last change" date. The AM (or FD) will > > notice that it's not up-to-date and they can ask you to update it. > > Thank you for the explanation. > > Last questions: > > - is there something like a template for an NM page? N

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:19:41 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Well, the wiki page has a "last change" date. The AM (or FD) will > notice that it's not up-to-date and they can ask you to update it. Thank you for the explanation. Last questions: - is there something like a template for an N

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: > I fear of the fact that my wiki page will be outdated, while my > involvement in Debian not. Probably it's a specific problem of mine, > as I try to be the most perfectionist I can and... without success. > > Obviously, as soon as the wiki page will be a

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:48:36 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: >> I wouldn't measure an NM commitment WRT a wiki page, at least if >> she/he doesn't want to deal mainly with web pages. > > Writing a wiki page is like writing a mail... you can cut & pas

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-13 Thread Frank Küster
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No [expletive deleted] way. Debian is a volunteer organization. This > means that we don't get paid. Lots of the various kinds of work people > do for debian are mind-bogglingly boring - one random thing that comes > to mind is the work Frank Küster is

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Rudi Cilibrasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I wonder if the same could be applied to Debian? (note I am not a > NM/DD yet) I think Debian has really taken off as a new nexus for open > source and would expect if it were possible to make a money > contribution to speed up the NM queue many wou

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Luca Capello wrote: > > For 2.2, I'd recommend that NM's maintain a page about them on > > wiki.d.org (my current applicant did that, and I found that rather > > useful). In a glance you can see applicants that are not comited > > enough. > > I wouldn't measure an NM commitmen

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-12 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! As someone in the NM queue... On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:59:44 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > For 2.2, I'd recommend that NM's maintain a page about them on > wiki.d.org (my current applicant did that, and I found that rather > useful). In a glance you can see applicants that are not comited

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Benjamin Mesing
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Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Rudi Cilibrasi
Dear Marc and fellow Debian friends, Thanks for this cogent and clear summary of the problem as you see it. It reminds me a bit of the problem of scientific peer-review; for-pay journals often ask people to donate their limitted time reviewing other people's work. Although the journal profits, t

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, my comments as someone planning to enter NM during the next couple of month follow. Overall I find your analysis enlightening. I agree with those points I do not discuss here. > 1.2.1 Add more people [Marc argues that this is not a long solution] I disagree here up to a certain point. I

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:40:34PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > >> 2.1 Multiple advocates >> -- >> > > >> Ask for more than one advocate (at the moment, I'm thinking about >> two). This should get the number of people advocated with a

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 06:40:34PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > 2.1 Multiple advocates > -- > Ask for more than one advocate (at the moment, I'm thinking about > two). This should get the number of people advocated with a "Errr, > I met him, he seemed nice" down. At t

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 11 Avril 2006 18:40, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit : > I'd like to implement the proposals I made in (2.1) and (2.2) as fast > as possible, especially applying the rules in (2.2) to people already > in the queue waiting for an AM. I agree both points are a good thing, and should be impleme