Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-05-30 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Interesting matter ! Multiarch :-) I have experienced the same treatment from binutils maintainer, he did not answer to my mails or bug reports (393841,432772). Tired of this and as it is an upstream matter i sent a patch upstream and it got accepted. For my surprise, it is very close to 3

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:49:07 +0200, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a refusal >by the maintainer? Acticaly refusing things is not part of Mr. Troup's operations. He rather sits on such issues for years until they solve thems

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-21 Thread Luk Claes
Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:06:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: >> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> If you do want to wait for permission/refusal, you might find you >> never get a reply and end up w

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:06:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > >> > I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after > >> > we released lenny without multiarch. > >>

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:49:07PM +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : > > Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a refusal > by the maintainer? Hello, It reminds me when I had to deal with a DD who thought he orphaned a package, but did not. It lead to a situation where a fe

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Roger Leigh] > If you do want to wait for permission/refusal, you might find you > never get a reply and end up waiting forever. So, why not wait long > enough for a reply, say a fortnight, and then go ahead and hijack it > after that if you have no response (and tell them in the mail that > thi

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Roger Leigh
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> > I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after >> > we released lenny without multiarch. >> >> That's indeed the way the maintainer seems to work, and he keeps sit

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after > > we released lenny without multiarch. > > That's indeed the way the maintainer seems to work, and he keeps sitting > on way too many packages, stopping progres

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> Why did I guess the name of binutils' maintainer correctly _before_ > looking into the PTS? You're not alone. > I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after > we released lenny without multiarch. That's indeed the way the maintainer seems to work, and he keeps sitting

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:48:26 +0200: NMU attempt gets vetoed > > Nope, this is only a patch with a mail subject 'Patch for pending NMU of > binutils' The BTS doesn't show it but it was vetoed. >> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:01:53 +0200:

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This thre

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080415 21:57]: >> Now I suppose sparc and others might still like it if they have >> performance advantages of 32bit code over 64bit code, in which case >> keeping 64bit for only those programs where the extra

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 10:01:53 16.04.2008 UTC+02 when Goswin von Brederlow did gyre and gimble: GvB> Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GvB> - 13 month from initial report to raising a minor issue that has no GvB> negative effects on the functionality GvB> - 4 days to fix the issue GvB> - 9

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080415 21:57]: > Now I suppose sparc and others might still like it if they have > performance advantages of 32bit code over 64bit code, in which case > keeping 64bit for only those programs where the extra address space is > worth it would be great. I guess

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for >>> a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This >>> thread is just their latest, last-ditch e

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:24:09 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The way I understand it, they HAVE been pushing... and pushing... for >> a long time... against a nonresponsive binutils maintainer. This >> thread is just their latest, la

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
Stripping Ccs, in particular debian-release as it's no discussion list. Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Andreas Barth skrev: >>> * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: >>> People, we want to release soon. Anyone is welcome to hack on feature

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Barth skrev: >> * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: >>> I suspect by the time a fully working multiarch is done, x86 won't need >>> it anymore because everything will be fully 64bit. :) > > As Wine maintainer, I'd disagree with th

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> > Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >> >include files in the multiarch locations. >>

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >>include files in the multiarch locations. >> Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369064 >>

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Ove Kaaven
Andreas Barth skrev: * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: I suspect by the time a fully working multiarch is done, x86 won't need it anymore because everything will be fully 64bit. :) As Wine maintainer, I'd disagree with that. People, we want to release soon. Anyone is wel

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 22:26]: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: > > > Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and > > >include files in the multiarch l

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would like to suggest a new release goal The release goal list is frozen. We will only drop goals, not add new ones. Marc -- Fachbegriffe der Informatik - Einfach erklärt 287: Palestinänsertipper 1 Anschlag pro Minute. (Bodo Eggert) p

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Otavio Salvador
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: >> Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >>include files in the multiarch locations. >> Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369064 >>

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:03:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: > > Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and > >include files in the multiarch locations. > > Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo

Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

2008-04-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080415 20:34]: > Description: The toolchain should be ready to handle libraries and >include files in the multiarch locations. > Bug-Url: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369064 > State: All done except for binutils. Patch exists