Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane verbalised: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: > > The U

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But the standards of "reasonable" are different for minors than for >> adults. Right? > > Constitutional law doesn't differentiate. Yes, it does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Paul Johnson told this: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrot

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mama

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lio

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >> >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, M

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:52, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada >> > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US >> > customs d

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Steve McIntyre
Ron Johnson writes: >Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >> >[snip

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Li

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:52, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada > > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US > > customs decided that it was appropriate to violate the ri

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:41, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be > >> pestered at customs > >> "OR ELSE". > > > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mam

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: The US constitution applies only to USA citizens, right? >>

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US > customs decided that it was appropriate to violate the rights the US > constitution claims I have by searching my vehicle

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign >> > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) >

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign >>> national is more a shame than something to be pr

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be >> pestered at customs >> "OR ELSE". > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada practi

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >>> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > > Apparently

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign > > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) > > But then, as it happens, it does apply to fo

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:34, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to > >> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > > > > If only th

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) But then, as it happens, it does apply to foreign nationals who are under the jurisdiction of the United State

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >>> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >>> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > >> If only that were true. Th

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Joe probably meant "peste

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be > pestered at customs > "OR ELSE". If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US customs decide

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Joe Smith
"David Moreno Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Luca Capello wrote: As a side note, while my passport was valid (re-newed the day before leaving for Mexico because I forgot it was expired after 5 years and not 10), I didn't get any Mexican seal when I arrived a