Re: perl and libclass-xsaccessor-perl conflict in experimental

2025-01-26 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Niko Tyni wrote: On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 12:39:52AM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 07:17:52PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: I know this is experimental and so breakage is expected but it seems to have been like this for a while now so I'm reporting i

Re: perl and libclass-xsaccessor-perl conflict in experimental

2025-01-26 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 12:39:52AM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 07:17:52PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > > I know this is experimental and so breakage is expected but it seems to > > have been like this for a while now so I'm reporting it here in case > > it's been miss

Re: perl and libclass-xsaccessor-perl conflict in experimental

2025-01-25 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 07:17:52PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > I know this is experimental and so breakage is expected but it seems to > have been like this for a while now so I'm reporting it here in case > it's been missed. You may be confused, as perl 5.40.1-1 was only uploaded to experimental

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:55:28PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Thanks! You saved me a lot of headaches! FWIW to do a bootstrap build of perl I had to: - disable libdb and libgdbm build-deps - disable build-time tests, which would pick up old ndbm module from on-disk and break

Re: Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Roderich, On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 19:20 +0100, Roderich Schupp wrote: > Hi, > > > Parser.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got first > > handshake key 0xb600080, needed 0xb700080) > > > > > The upper 16 bits in these keys (i.e. 0xb60 vs 0xb70) is > sizeof(PerlInterpreter

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-06 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:55:28 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Also, I noticed that libxs-parse-keyword-perl build-depends on > libextutils-cbuilder-perl > which is apparently obsolete and also still depends on the old Perl API [1] > which makes > me wonder how libxs-parse-keyword-perl w

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi, On Tue, 2024-03-05 at 23:10 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > oks like it's built with dpkg-dev_1.22.4 but the time64 build flags are > > only activated with 1.22.5. > > Ah, that would explain it, thank you so much! > > > I think there was talk about making them the default in

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-05 Thread Niko Tyni
(Oops, forgot the Cc you asked for. So resending. Apologies for the duplicate on the list.) On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 09:17:17PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I am getting strange Perl error after rebuilding Perl for the time64_t > transition on powerpc: > > loadable library and perl

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Wed, 2024-03-06 at 00:08 +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > (Oops, forgot the Cc you asked for. So resending. Apologies for the > duplicate on the list.) No worries. > On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 09:17:17PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > I am getting strange Perl error after rebuilding Per

Re: Perl problem - loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched

2024-03-05 Thread Niko Tyni
On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 09:17:17PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I am getting strange Perl error after rebuilding Perl for the time64_t > transition on powerpc: > > loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got first handshake key > 0xb600080, needed 0xb700080) > > See:

Re: perl necessary for debootstrap, why?

2021-06-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 10:03:55AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:54:16 +0200, RhineDevil > wrote: > >I've looked up /usr/share/debootstrap/functions and I've seen some perl code > >What does this code do exactly and why wasn't it translated to shell? > Writing it in shell would

Re: perl necessary for debootstrap, why?

2021-06-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 21:54:16 +0200, RhineDevil wrote: >I've looked up /usr/share/debootstrap/functions and I've seen some perl code >Can I know why perl is a requirement if pkgdetails.c is not found? >What does this code do exactly and why wasn't it translated to shell? As far as I remember, the p

Re: Perl 5.28 transition underway

2018-12-07 Thread Niko Tyni
On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 04:34:48PM +0100, Cyrille Bollu wrote: > The URL https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl5.28.html is 404 Indeed. The correct one seems to be https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl.html The havoc part of the transition is long over though, so no big ma

Re: Perl 5.28 transition underway

2018-12-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On 12/7/18 4:34 PM, Cyrille Bollu wrote: > The URL https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl5.28.html  is > 404 :-( > With Perl 5.28 in testing, the transition is over. Cheers, Julien

Re: Perl 5.28 transition underway

2018-12-07 Thread Cyrille Bollu
The URL https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/perl5.28.html is 404 :-( BR, Cyrille Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 23:14, Niko Tyni a écrit : > I have uploaded Perl 5.28 to Debian unstable, starting a 500+ package > transition. Wide uninstallability is to be expected in sid for the next > few da

Re: Perl transition blockers: candidates for testing removal

2011-11-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 20:52:48 +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: > > * genders (#646286): patch ready, maybe NMU? > > Uploaded in the meantime. > Uploaded, but still broken. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: Perl transition blockers: candidates for testing removal

2011-11-18 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:25:16 +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > The following packages block the perl transition and will become testing > removal candidates soon unless the bugs get fixed: > * libdbd-interbase-perl (#648857) Just asked for removal from the archive. > * prima (#628500) Already NMUd, s

Re: Perl transition blockers: candidates for testing removal

2011-11-18 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Luk Claes wrote: > The following packages block the perl transition and will become testing > removal candidates soon unless the bugs get fixed: > ... > * nginx (#649061) > ... This doesn't look like Perl issue, but I'm uploading new version that should fix build

Re: Perl transition blockers: candidates for testing removal

2011-11-18 Thread tony mancill
On 11/18/2011 09:25 AM, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > The following packages block the perl transition and will become testing > removal candidates soon unless the bugs get fixed: > > ... > > * genders (#646286): patch ready, maybe NMU? Working on an upload of genders now. Sorry, for some reason I

Re: perl transition underway; breakage with libjson-pp-perl

2011-11-16 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:30:38PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 01:59:19PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > As per #637809, I plan to upload perl 5.14 to unstable soon (maybe today, > > depending on how some last bits of testing go). Like last time, this > > will m

Re: Perl 5.12 transition in progress; uninstallable packages

2011-05-03 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 03/05/2011 12:02, Neil Williams wrote: > > With such a large number of packages involved and the transition page > being constructed from multiple dependency levels, is there a way of > linking the transitions data from DDPO or having some other output > which is organised on a per-developer /

Re: Perl 5.12 transition in progress; uninstallable packages

2011-05-03 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 3 May 2011 10:21:09 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sunday, in collaboration with the release team, I uploaded > perl 5.12-6 to unstable. This necessarily causes around 400 packages > to be uninstallable with the new perl. The release team will be > scheduling binNMUs in

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-12 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 11:37:24PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > Testing 5.12.0 with and without use64bitint on x86 shows an approximately > 10% increase with scalars and arrays: > > perl -e '${"v$i"} = $i while ($i++ < $ARGV[0]); system("ps -o rss $$")' > 100 > perl -e '$a[$i++] = $i while ($

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-10 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 11:37:24PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > I'm partial to enabling use64bitint on all architectures, if only for the > sake of uniformity already mentioned in the uselongdouble discussion: bugs > that only happen on the "smaller" architectures because of differences > like this a

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-10 Thread Niko Tyni
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50:23AM +0200, Martin Becker wrote: > I'd argue against a default setting where floating point numbers > are less precise than integers. I believe this has always been the case on our 64-bit architectures (ia64, alpha, amd64.) On current sid / amd64 (perl 5.10.1-12):

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Becker
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:29:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Niko Tyni: > > > The benefits are obviously improved numeric range and precision. The > > downside is presumably increased memory usage. I have no measurement > > data on this; suggestions on suitable tests would be welcome. > >

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-09 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:25:43PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Niko Tyni: > > > Given that we've already run into a dozen or so incompatibilities > > with just the CPAN modules, -Duselongdouble seems to be a pretty > > rare thing to do. I'm inclined to revert this setting. > > That is, 64 bi

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-09 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > So it boils down to malloc granularity (I don't think Perl's allocator > is used on Debian). For that, I wrote this little test program: While we do use the system malloc(), I think Perl allocates bigger chunks at a time and thus

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Niko Tyni: > I wasn't initially going for long doubles, but several upstream > developers recommended that they be enabled together. > > http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2010-04/msg00773.html This shows that long doubles are not backwards-compatible. 8-) The root cause

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stefan Fritsch: > I may be a bit late to this discussion, but aren't 64bit ints (and > especially pack/unpack "Q") very useful for 64bit file pointers and > such? IMHO, this means that they would also be very useful on > "smaller" architectures like arm. Yes, they are, and that's where I hav

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-09 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Wednesday 05 May 2010, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > It would be possible to choose these settings separately for each > > architecture. Should I exclude the 'smaller' architectures > > (armel, mips*?) > > You could ask debian-...@lists.debian.org and the other ports > lists, but it seems reasonable

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 03:44:03PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-05-08, Frans Pop wrote: > > archkernel userland > > -- -- > > alpha 32 32 > > Isn't alpha the first 64bit of all? > > > mips/mipsel 3

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 08 May 2010, Julien Cristau wrote: > alpha is all 64. Shows that alpha is the arch I'm least familiar with... > and sparc kernel is 64. This I should have gotten right :-( Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-05-08, Frans Pop wrote: > arch kernel userland > ---- > alpha 32 32 Isn't alpha the first 64bit of all? > mips/mipsel 32 32 I think that's 32/64, 32; at least for mipsel. > sparc 32

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 17:15:50 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Niko Tyni wrote: > > Can anybody list our "pure" 32-bit architectures off-hand > > or suggest a simple test? > > AFAIK for Squeeze the arches are as follows, but please anybody correct me > where incorrect. > > arch kernel

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
Niko Tyni wrote: > Can anybody list our "pure" 32-bit architectures off-hand > or suggest a simple test? AFAIK for Squeeze the arches are as follows, but please anybody correct me where incorrect. archkernel userland -- -- i3863

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-08 Thread Niko Tyni
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:29:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Niko Tyni: > > > The benefits are obviously improved numeric range and precision. The > > downside is presumably increased memory usage. I have no measurement > > data on this; suggestions on suitable tests would be welcome. > >

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-04 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On 4 May 2010 22:54, Niko Tyni wrote: > unlike earlier versions, perl 5.12.0-1 in experimental is configured with > the "use64bitint" and "uselongdouble" options on all architectures. I'm > looking for input on whether this is the right choice for sid. Sounds like a good idea to me. I had intend

Re: perl: 64-bit integers and long doubles

2010-05-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Niko Tyni: > The benefits are obviously improved numeric range and precision. The > downside is presumably increased memory usage. I have no measurement > data on this; suggestions on suitable tests would be welcome. I have run into several incompatibilities between i386 and amd64 due to differ

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2010-01-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 03:18:17PM +0100, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > Would a new package relationship, say "Post-Depends", be helpful? No. Too many of our maintainers can't even follow the semantics of the relationship fields we /already/ have... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lev

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2010-01-01 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On fredagen den 23 oktober 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: > Currently there is a proposal[0] to combine perl-modules and perl into > a single package. perl-modules currently contains architecture > independent bits, and perl contains architecture dependent bits. > > FWICT, the primary argument[1] to d

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-26 Thread Niko Tyni
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 05:52:46PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Don Armstrong] > > > I actually suggested that perl-modules recommend perl, but that was > > > rejected for the reason that perl-modules doesn't do anything useful > > > without perl. >

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Don Armstrong] > > I actually suggested that perl-modules recommend perl, but that was > > rejected for the reason that perl-modules doesn't do anything useful > > without perl. > > You sure? I'm sure that it was the reason given, but I didn't have

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-25 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Don Armstrong] > I actually suggested that perl-modules recommend perl, but that was > rejected for the reason that perl-modules doesn't do anything useful > without perl. You sure? That surprises me - I would have thought a lot of the modules in perl-modules only needed perl-base. -- Peter Sa

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
James Vega wrote: >> However, I agree that in almost all cases (including this case) it >> seems silly for any other package to depend on B or for users to >> install B directly. I actually suggested that perl-modules recommend >> perl, but that was rejected for the reason that perl-modules doesn't

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
James Vega wrote: [...] > I don't see how perl-modules is that much different than the various > arch-independent data packages which provide little to no functionality > on their own but are required by another arch-dependent package. Many > of those either Recommend the relevant package or decl

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-23 Thread James Vega
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:22:34PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 24 Oct 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 14:25 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > > 3: Specifically, where Package A Depends on (B=1), and Package B > > > Depends on A; A and B are from the same

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 14:25 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > 3: Specifically, where Package A Depends on (B=1), and Package B > > Depends on A; A and B are from the same source, B is architecture > > independent, and does not require configu

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 23 octobre 2009 à 14:25 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : > Because this is a common situtation, where there is architecture > independent data (of varying sizes) which is interdependent on > architecture specific code of a particular version, reflexive > dependencies are necessary.[2] >

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-08-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 00:52:44 +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > The only perl scripts provided by Essential packages are > > /usr/bin/scriptreplay This one comes from bsdutils, and it's fairly short (around 30 lines with comments). > /usr/bin/chkdupexe And this one is a bit longer, but still shor

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-08-20 Thread Niko Tyni
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 08:11:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes ("Bug#489132: lenny release notes, upgrade dpkg > first"): > > To work-around a problem that can happen in the perl 5.10 upgrade (see > > #479711), the perl scripts contained in dpkg (update-alternatives, > > dpk

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-08-03 Thread Niko Tyni
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:17:47PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > > * This problem is clearly release critical. I don't think documenting > > a release critical bug of this severity in the release notes is > > acceptable. Furthermore, the proposed w

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is why I suggested to integrate liblocale-gettext-perl in perl-base > itself. This would be the simplest/nicest solution IMO. It would always be > synchronized with the current perl. > > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > Here is a summary of the problem: FWIW, the summary is right according to my understanding. > * This problem is clearly release critical. I don't think documenting > a release critical bug of this severity in the release notes is > acceptable. Furth

Re: Perl symbol problem - release critical (Re: Bug#489132)

2008-07-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: > * Suppressing lazy symbol resolution may work in this case, but it > is not correct. Lazy symbol resolution should be supressed while in eval regardless of the method which we use to resolve this problem. Non-recoverable failures from code in eval should

Re: perl upgrade fails

2008-05-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 08 May 2008, Niko Tyni wrote: > > It's the scripts that are doing the eval that must set the environment > > variable, isn't it? Or do you see a way to force this from the module > > side? > > It's precisely those modules that are doing the eval in the > Locale::gettext case, and the examp

Re: perl upgrade fails

2008-05-08 Thread Niko Tyni
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 09:41:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 07 May 2008, Niko Tyni wrote: > > The only room for improvement that I can see here is to always set > > PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 when executing an eval statement. This sounds a bit > > intrusive, but arguably anybody using an eval

Re: perl upgrade fails

2008-05-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 07 May 2008, Niko Tyni wrote: > The only room for improvement that I can see here is to always set > PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 when executing an eval statement. This sounds a bit > intrusive, but arguably anybody using an eval wants to catch any > exceptions immediately. > > I'll bring this up on

Re: perl upgrade fails

2008-05-07 Thread Niko Tyni
(switched a separate cloned bug, #479711. I think we can leave debian-devel at this point, interested people can subscribe to the bug.) On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 09:27:28AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > We already had this issue with the perl 5.6 -> 5.8 move, see > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin

Re: Perl or Java project

2005-06-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 04 June 2005 19.20, Joshua Jackson wrote: > Where could I find out about projects that still need developers. I could > code in perl and java. Please tell me where I can read the resources > regarding to the available projects in debian. Java: A group of people tries very hard to get

Re: Perl or Java project

2005-06-04 Thread Jochen Schulz
Joshua Jackson: > > Where could I find out about projects that still need developers. I could > code in perl and java. Please tell me where I can read the resources > regarding to the available projects in debian. Aside from Debian, you could browse the Sourceforge.net project list sorted by progr

Re: Perl or Java project

2005-06-04 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Joshua Jackson wrote: Where could I find out about projects that still need developers. I could code in perl and java. Please tell me where I can read the resources regarding to the available projects in debian. Please take a look at http://webmin.alioth.debian.org/ partic

Re: perl-tk

2004-12-01 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Carlo U. Segre in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I noticed that a number of perl packages and perl-tk in particular have > been orphaned but they do not appear on the "wnpp" list. > > Is this beacause they have not been orphaned by the Maintainer himself? Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkg

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:42:29PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > [...] > - Fix msqid_ds on MIPS. Dpatch from Guido Guenther, patch by > Thiemo Seufer (Closes: #215273, #200215, #217593). > [...] ...additionally the current 2.4.22 mips kernel packages have the necessary fixes. The mips

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:58:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > > i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd. > > > > > > why it is in this

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd. > > why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software. I'm told that getting it past the test suite requires a newer kernel, which our mips buildds d

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 & mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Roland Mas
Domenico Andreoli, 2003-11-19 11:30:17 +0100 : > i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked "Not-For-Us" on mips buildd. > > why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software. I'm currently building it by hand. Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux

Re: perl and libtk-img

2003-04-25 Thread David N. Welton
Michel Loos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Em Qui, 2003-03-27 às 19:38, David N. Welton escreveu: > > [ Please CC me in replies ] > > Hi, I have emailed the guy who submitted this bug, with no answer. > > Any Perl people want to have a look at it and see if the problem > > behavior is still there?

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-09-01 Thread Graeme Mathieson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:28:43AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:34:04AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: r > >> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't have an unstable system handy... > > > > > > So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? > >

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:00:41PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Looking at the dependency line, yes, that seems to be the case. My > guess is the reporter performed a dist-upgrade and that removed the > libunix-syslog-perl package. Something like that.. My mail was bouncing for about 8

Re: perl 5.8 breaks autoconf 2.5

2002-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:23:06PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:16:53AM +0100, Colin Watson scribbled: > > $ dlocate bytes.pm > > perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/bytes.pm > > $ dpkg -l perl-modules | grep ^ii > > ii perl-modules 5.8.0-8Core Perl

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Hilko Bengen
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't have an unstable system handy... > > > > So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? > > > > Do I need to add an extra depends or something to amavis? > > Uhm... > > http

Re: perl 5.8 breaks autoconf 2.5

2002-08-29 Thread Marek Habersack
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:16:53AM +0100, Colin Watson scribbled: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:10:41PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > > perl-base contains Data/Dumper.pm, that in turn wants to use bytes.pm > > which used to be in perl-modules for perl 5.6 - it doesn't exists in > > perl-modules

Re: perl 5.8 breaks autoconf 2.5

2002-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:10:41PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: > perl-base contains Data/Dumper.pm, that in turn wants to use bytes.pm > which used to be in perl-modules for perl 5.6 - it doesn't exists in > perl-modules for 5.8. $ dlocate bytes.pm perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/bytes

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 07:51:20PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > Unix::Syslog wasn't part of the perl package even for 5.6.1. Looks > > like libunix-syslog-perl need to be recompiled for 5.8. > > I take it that my package is OK then because it depends on > libunix-syslog-perl? Looking at

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:34:04AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Uhm... > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?N240364A1 > > Unix::Syslog wasn't part of the perl package even for 5.6.1. Looks > like libunix-syslog-perl need to be recompiled for 5.8. I take it that my package is OK then beca

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:34:04AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't have an unstable system handy... > > > > So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? > > > > Do I need to add an extra depends or something to amavis? > > Uh

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't have an unstable system handy... > > So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? > > Do I need to add an extra depends or something to amavis? Uhm... http://makeashorterlink.com/?N240364A1 Unix::Syslog wasn't part of the perl

[Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-08-29 Thread Brian May
I don't have an unstable system handy... So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? Do I need to add an extra depends or something to amavis? -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Begin Message --- | CCed to Mark, the author. Thanks Brian. | > I discovered the hard way that perl 5.8 br

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Brendan" == Brendan O'Dea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brendan> Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some Brendan> modules which were previously stand-alone, any package Brendan> declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: Brendan> libcgi-perl, Brendan> needs to either have

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:57:50PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > If those package are still going to be shipped separately (because > > they're going to evolve outside the perl core), then they should stay > > in the archive and perl must add Provides for them. Hence, the user > > can still

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-26 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:33:51AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: >On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: >> Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were >> previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency >> on: >> >> l

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-26 Thread Jérôme Marant
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > >perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can > >make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which > >still depend on perlapi-5.

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:33:36PM -0700, Ryan Murray écrivait: > while the build-depends on perl were updated, the build-depends for the > new libdbi were not. You need to update all build-depends that might be They were in 1.28-1.1 (NMU by Joey), but during the transition the maintainer uploade

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Ryan Murray
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 07:39:54PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea ?crivait: > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > >perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can > > >make testing though, we

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:51:18PM -0400, Clint Adams écrivait: > > Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU > > anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. > > Yes, two newer MU's actually. The latter was a rebuild for 5.8; > unfortunately the build-deps weren't upd

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Clint Adams
> Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU > anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. Yes, two newer MU's actually. The latter was a rebuild for 5.8; unfortunately the build-deps weren't updated, so it was autobuilt inconsistently.

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > What happened to libdbi-perl ? > > Joey NMUed it in the pool, but it appears to not have been installed. Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. -- see shy jo

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea écrivait: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > >perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can > >make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which > >still depend on perlapi

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Joey Hess
Brendan O'Dea wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > >perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can > >make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which > >still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account th

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can > make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which > still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those > packages that were a

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Steve Kowalik wrote: > If they depend on those packages and perl (>= 5.8.0)? If they have any sort of versioned dependency on provides (we should make a list of those), actually. But since this is a non-local check, and hard to write, I guess tailoring it to detect dependenci

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-25 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 11:06 am, Sunday, August 25 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh mumbled: > On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were > > previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency > > on: > > > > libdi

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were > previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency > on: > > libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, > libtime-hires-perl, libstorab

Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages

2002-08-24 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can >make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which >still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those >packages that were alrea

Re: perl getpwnam returns x

2002-04-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> getpwnam.passwd = x as it is written in /etc/passwd. Martin> getspwnam.passwd = encrypted password. Perl doesn't supoprt getspnam(). It used to do a getspnam under the covers in the getpwnam call in 5.00404 (I wrote the

Re: perl getpwnam returns x

2002-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Kirk Ismay wrote: > I have just copied one of my perl programs from an old slink system to a > new machine running potato. Its a perl program for managing users and such. > > On slink, getpwnam(foo) returns the hash for the password, on potato i get > an x. > Both are using shadow passwords. >

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:01:40AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: > > > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs > > > bugs.debian.org to > > > send CC's of all bug mail to another a

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:01:40AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs bugs.debian.org > > to > > send CC's of all bug mail to another address, ... > > You mean something other than signing up

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:06:35PM -0800, Ralph Jennings wrote: The problem is not that easy to solve I think. Basicly the problem is that you upgrade a tool that the install program depends on. If you install the perl-5.6 package before anything alse things will probably work just fine. The prob

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