Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 23:18 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > > With my scheme, he could install i-want-all-prof-packages and the > > package manager will automatically install the missing -prof packages. > > Actually, that's not guaranteed, since your proposed > i-want-all-prof-packages

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:31:19PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 22:15 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > > No, that's not true; a Recommends is not a Suggests. > > That’s not what I said. But it is a suggestion in the sense that > installing a package without

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 22:15 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > No, that's not true; a Recommends is not a Suggests. That’s not what I said. But it is a suggestion in the sense that installing a package without the package that is Recommends is valid. > It seems perfectly suited for your

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 02:57:56PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 14:39 +0200 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev ins

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 12:51 -0600 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > According to the package description, you only need the -dev package if > you actually plan to configure the window manager instead of using its > defaults. Which presumably most people do, so I guess the Recommends > makes se

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Joachim Breitner] > > And a foo-dev Recommends: foo-prof is not suitable because? > > because we cannot tell what the user will want. For example, a user of > xmonad will not want -prof packages installed, and an addition 400MB of > useless stuff on his computer is not in his, and hence our, int

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:57:56 +0100 Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 14:39 +0200 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 14:39 +0200 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always also want > > foo-prof installed. > > B. Users tha

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:24:46 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Andrei POPESCU (2012-12-22 13:39:07) > > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always also want > > >

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrei POPESCU (2012-12-22 13:39:07) > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always also want > > foo-prof installed. > > B. Users that want to manually decid

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always also want > foo-prof installed. > B. Users that want to manually decide for what packages they want > the -prof packa