Re: Package cache

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 01:17:22AM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > As Mr. Sliepen pointed out the same can be achieve with a FUSE daemon. > I thought of symlinks pointing to an executable that load the necessary > packages > and corrects the symlink. > For example: > 1. Blender not installed > 2. User typ

Re: Package cache

2007-08-22 Thread Gonsolo
Thanks to all, 0install.net is exactly what I am looking for. One thing is that this system is "per user". Having something like that "per computer" would be nice. That is, the admin sets up the computer with _all_ packages and the user can use _all_ packages. (Except that _not_ all packages are i

Re: Package cache

2007-08-22 Thread Gonsolo
Hi! > What you describe is not a cache and even less a _package_ cache. >From Wikipedia: "In computer science , a *cache* (...)is a collection of data duplicating original values stored elsewhere or computed earlier, where the original data is expensive to fetch (due to slow access time ) or to c

Re: Package cache

2007-08-22 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 01:52:40PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2007-08-21 11:26:26, schrieb Guus Sliepen: > > Well, it could be implemented with a FUSE daemon, that you mount over > > /usr for example, and which periodically fetches the Contents-.gz > > file from a mirror. It the uses the

Re: Package cache

2007-08-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-08-21 11:26:26, schrieb Guus Sliepen: > Well, it could be implemented with a FUSE daemon, that you mount over > /usr for example, and which periodically fetches the Contents-.gz > file from a mirror. It the uses the Contents file to generate directory > listings. If some package tries to op

Re: Package cache

2007-08-22 Thread paddy
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:57:28PM +0100, David Given wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eduard Bloch wrote: > [...] > > If you want to keep the files aside but ie. > > compressed than you should use a compressing filesystem. > > But if you want something working on acces

Re: Package cache

2007-08-21 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eduard Bloch wrote: [...] > If you want to keep the files aside but ie. > compressed than you should use a compressing filesystem. > But if you want something working on access, expect it to perform very bad. > Ie. if you want to install the files fro

Re: Package cache

2007-08-21 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:31:39AM +0200, Krzysztof Burghardt wrote: > 2007/8/21, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm not going to implement this though. > > Doesn't auto-apt do this? It uses a bit different approach - preloaded > library to overwrite stat(), open() and so on, then pauses p

Re: Package cache

2007-08-21 Thread Krzysztof Burghardt
2007/8/21, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not going to implement this though. Doesn't auto-apt do this? It uses a bit different approach - preloaded library to overwrite stat(), open() and so on, then pauses program until package is installed. Regards, -- Krzysztof Burghardt <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Package cache

2007-08-21 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:29:55PM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to Debian? > > This way only a minimal Debian system would be installed locally on > the hard disk. All other packages are fetched only when used. For example, > user Joe sets his

Re: Package cache

2007-08-21 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Gonsolo [Sat, Aug 18 2007, 07:29:55PM]: > Hi! > > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to Debian? What you describe is not a cache and even less a _package_ cache. > This way only a minimal Debian system would be installed locally on > the hard disk. All other p

Re: Package cache

2007-08-20 Thread Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 09:53:12AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 20-Aug-07, 11:58 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:29:55PM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > > > > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to

Re: Package cache

2007-08-20 Thread Ben Finney
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 20-Aug-07, 11:58 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:29:55PM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > > > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to > > > Debian? > > > > apt-proxy ? > > No, that builds a local mirror

Re: Package cache

2007-08-20 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Aug-07, 11:58 (CDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:29:55PM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to Debian? > > apt-proxy ? No, that builds a local mirror of packages being used on a site, so that if you're

Re: Package cache

2007-08-20 Thread paddy
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:29:55PM +0200, Gonsolo wrote: > Hi! > > Would it be feasible to add something like a package cache to Debian? apt-proxy ? Regards, Paddy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Package cache

2007-08-20 Thread Toni Mueller
On Sat, 18.08.2007 at 19:29:55 +0200, Gonsolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know disk space is cheap but having hundreds of megabytes wasted for > gnome pixmaps I never see or fonts i never use is annoying. I find the implications of your proposal MUCH more annoying: * Joe User has to be perm