Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-09-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 03:08:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > Essentially, *everything* stays in git from upstream to distributed > > releases to debian work and releases and also to downstreams. There's > > no import of release tarballs because they are in git too, and

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Roger, On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:28:52PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [..snip..] > > Best practices for Git repository layout? > > - git-buildpackage documentation is closest to that > > I would have to disagree here, the git-buildp

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Josef Spillner
In data lunedì, 16. di agosto 2010 12:35:29, Ian Jackson ha scritto: : > Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > git://foo.bar.org/meow#debian > > > >

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): > That's not the problem being discussed here. The signature is fine. The > problem is that while Joey may think that his repository is completely > DFSG-free, it's the current job of ftp-master

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > git://foo.bar.org/meow#debian > > At least, neither git clone, merge nor fetch understand that syntax. They could and should,

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-16 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 at 22:28:52 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Best practices for Git repository layout? > > - git-buildpackage documentation is closest to that > > I would have to disagree here, the git-buildpackage default layout is > far too "Debian-centric". By naming the Debian and Upstream b

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh writes: > I can see that this could be a legitmate cause for concern, especially > since the history is essentially immutable and if "tainted" will remain > so unless it's deliberately excised and the history is altered. > However, is this a problem in reality, or just theoretical? I

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Since this is open for discussion, some comments about my take on some of the discussed points: > ftp-team is concerned about doing license checks across the entire git > archive Colin points out that we're in the same situation with A

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 00:10 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: > > > > This is easy: you just publish two

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 00:10 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: > > > This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in > > > the same tree. (It's a shame

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:39:35AM +0200, Josef Spillner wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: > > This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in > > the same tree. (It's a shame that there isn't a syntax for "git > > clone" which checks out

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Josef Spillner
Am Donnerstag, 12. August 2010, 16:36:56 schrieb Ian Jackson: > This is easy: you just publish two trees, rather than two branches in > the same tree. (It's a shame that there isn't a syntax for "git > clone" which checks out a particular branch.) The --branch option to git-clone is going to cele

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > Thanks for this very detailed notes! Can you please also upload them as > attachment to the Penta event at > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/691.en.html ? I've uploaded the notes as an attachment to the scheduled event inside Penta. They don't current

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 20:27:24 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > One issue with 3.0 (quilt) is that when you check it out when it's > maintained in a VCS, you have two choices: commit the .pc directory and > files, or leave it out and then have to run some magic [...] > - Why don't you just check in wi

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Giacomo A. Catenazzi writes ("Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): > I think there are three usual use of the sources: > - developers/bug trackers/... > - users: to check and to learn the sources > - admins: who need to recompile/backport/.. sources > >

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 08/11/2010 06:47 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: Russ Allbery writes ("Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): * Part of Joey's motivation is that if you look at GitHub, the people using it a lot consider Git to be a source package format, I've been doing that for some non-Debian work. It tu

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Russ Allbery > | After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new > | source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that > | discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure > | that I missed things

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF"): > * Part of Joey's motivation is that if you look at GitHub, the > people using it a lot consider Git to be a source package format, I've been doing that for some non-Debian work. It turns out to be incredibly convenient, if you'

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery | After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new | source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that | discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure | that I missed things. Other participants, please add a

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new > source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that > discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure > that I miss

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread James Vega
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> source.debian.org is working on importing source packages into a Git >> repository and storing the history as one revision per new source package >> upload. > > That gives a

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:27:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > source.debian.org is working on importing source packages into a Git > repository and storing the history as one revision per new source package > upload. That gives a 404. source.debian.net doesn't, but gives you a page with as full

Re: Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Russ Allbery [100811 05:27]: > If you're implementing 3.0 format, please don't hard-code the extensions that > you "know" will be found in source packages, because as we add additional > files listed in *.dsc, we may add other types of files. Please be carefull with adding new extensions. Those