On Mar 23 2018, Ben Finney wrote:
>> You need online access to make use of the above information in any
>> way.
>>
>> If you want to contact the maintainer you need internet access
>
> With the maintainer email address, I do not need internet access to
> compose an email message. Without that info
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 at 11:02:17 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, Ole Streicher wrote:
> > Given the fact that nobody strongly questioned the limitation of
> > salsa.d.o to git (and therefore the requirement to migrate from other
> > VCSs), I would have no objection against git.d.
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Joerg Jaspert writes:
> > packages.d.o/packagename and you are there. Nothing else needed.
>
> packages.d.o does not provide a canonical URL for the repository.
>
> It is even more difficult: I have first to select the package name, then
> select the
Joerg Jaspert writes:
> packages.d.o/packagename and you are there. Nothing else needed.
packages.d.o does not provide a canonical URL for the repository.
It is even more difficult: I have first to select the package name, then
select the distribution, go to the tracker.d.o, and select one of th
On Fri, 2018-03-23 at 04:07 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-03-23 at 03:33:48 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > apt show $PACKAGE
> >
> > There's no need to duplicate the information inside .dsc/.deb and apt
> > indices.
>
> Do you realize that the point of the repository (not apt :) ind
On 14986 March 1977, Ole Streicher wrote:
> which IMO proves that a sophisticated "layout" with namespaces or
> subdirs is a bad idea for canonical URLs.
> Why can't we have a flat name space with redirection
> https://git.debian.org/
> (or similar) that just redirects to the proper real loca
On 23/03/2018 17:04, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Why can't we have a flat name space with redirection
>
> https://git.debian.org/
>
> (or similar) that just redirects to the proper real location within salsa?
> Our source package names are unique, so there should be no conflicts.
>
> That would make
Joerg Jaspert writes:
> So that got us to "It would be nice. It does not work usefully. -> It
> won't happen". And basically you can expect another hostname change to
> happen *AGAIN* in the future, should we switch from gitlab to
> whatever-is-good-then, UNLESS that hypothetical thing is about id
On 14984 March 1977, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> That was announced several times and it will not reside.
> Why? Lack of volunteers maintaining a redirector, or new service
> incompatible with indirections, or?
Multiple things, and it ended up a decision we took at the meeting in
Hamburg.
First
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 at 13:56:09 +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
> If you were involved in team maintenance you would know that the
> Uploaders field is often completely outdated. The only way you can see
> who maintains a package is by looking at the Git history or upload
> history in tracker.debian.
Am 23.03.2018 um 05:27 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 23:23:22 +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
>> Am 22.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Guillem Jover:
>>> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 12:47:44 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
[...]
>> You ne
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 15:40 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I'm not sure now if this also has been said before, but I'm happy to
> repeat it in any case. :) I'd very strongly object to completely moving
> those fields out of the source packages, because it means when you get
> or have a source packag
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 23:23:22 +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
> Am 22.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> > On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 12:47:44 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >>> I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here
On Fri, 2018-03-23 at 03:33:48 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> apt show $PACKAGE
>
> There's no need to duplicate the information inside .dsc/.deb and apt
> indices.
Do you realize that the point of the repository (not apt :) indices is
precisely to duplicate all the information from the .dsc/.deb?
Adam Borowski writes:
> but pray tell, what will you do with that URL?
Visit it later, when I *do* have internet access.
Many people have internet connections that are unreliable, slow,
expensive, arbitrarily blocked, or some combination of all those. We
should not assume that “has internet acc
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:22:52AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Markus Koschany writes:
> > If you want to contact the maintainer you need internet access
>
> With the maintainer email address, I do not need internet access to
> compose an email message. Without that information I can't.
apt show
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 15:40 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 12:47:44 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
> > > we please agree that anonscm
Markus Koschany writes:
> Am 22.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> > I'd very strongly object to completely moving those fields out of
> > the source packages [&.3] I'll happily take outdated data than no
> > data any day, because usually you can use that outdated data to
> > trace your wa
Am 22.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> Hi!
>
> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 12:47:44 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
>>> I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
>>> we please agree that anonscm.debian.org rem
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 03:54:46PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 03:40:21PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > [...] I'd very strongly object to completely moving
> > those fields out of the source packages, because it means when you get
> > or have a source package lying aroun
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 03:40:21PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> [...] I'd very strongly object to completely moving
> those fields out of the source packages, because it means when you get
> or have a source package lying around then it's missing important
> metadata and it stops being standalone,
Hi!
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 12:47:44 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
> > we please agree that anonscm.debian.org remains a valid URL and stop
> > starting another round
Hi,
Le 22/03/2018 à 02:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> My personal policy is: I will not change Vcs fields until cme is doing
> this for me
Did you miss the last announcement, almost two weeks ago, on this list?
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/03/msg00266.html
(aka: you’re already in
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:56:30PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > >
> > > On the other hand the current timing does not allow for a probably
> > > complex implementation and a http redirect which is even implemented[2]
> > > can help to relax the situ
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:56:30PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> >
> > On the other hand the current timing does not allow for a probably
> > complex implementation and a http redirect which is even implemented[2]
> > can help to relax the situation we are currently facing. I admit I
> > expecte
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:47:44PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
> > > we please agree that anonscm.deb
Hi,
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I'm repeating myself, but could we please find another way to store
> this information than in the source package? I'd like to see all of
Sure.
> I envision a service, metadata.debian.org, with a suitable
> authenticated API to allow Debian packag
Hi Lars,
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:47:44PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
> > we please agree that anonscm.debian.org remains a valid URL and stop
> > starting anoth
On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 09:58 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I admit I do not agree with this and it was discussed here before. Can
> we please agree that anonscm.debian.org remains a valid URL and stop
> starting another round of package uploads for the sake of changing Vcs
> fields.
I'm repeating
Quoting Alexander Wirt (2018-03-22 10:03:46)
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > today I realised the lintian warning:
> >
> > W: libbpp-core source: vcs-deprecated-in-debian-infrastructure vcs-git
> > https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-med/libbpp-core.git
> > N:
>
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi,
>
> today I realised the lintian warning:
>
> W: libbpp-core source: vcs-deprecated-in-debian-infrastructure vcs-git
> https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-med/libbpp-core.git
> N:
> N:The specified Vcs-* field points to an area within the *
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