Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about: > "Docks, launchers, clocks, and other applets to add general features to > a graphical environment, but not system configuration tools." > Removed "mouse utilities" because it is too general. Also changed > "programs" to "applets" to make

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-25 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-25 11:12]: > Nico Golde wrote: [...] > > change of desktop behaviour in my opinion is not a "system-change". > > It is. If you change your desktop environment to use single-click > instead of double-click, is that not a "system change"? No? It's

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-25 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russ Allbery wrote: >> We need a good definition for the section, so that it would not become a >> dump for packages that do not fit elsewhere. Ideas? > > "Docks, program launchers, clocks, mouse utilities, and other programs to > add general feature

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-25 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nico Golde wrote: > In my opinion it would be nice to have some kind of misc > subsection for every section to have a workaround this, just > like the wildcard tags in debtags. No it would not. Already discussed and rejected. -BEGIN PGP SIGNAT

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-25 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nico Golde wrote: > I don't really have a better section proposal but I don't > really think it fits there because I would not search for a > general user tool in a section for root tools. Also the The definition of System/Administration is "Admin

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-24 21:57]: > Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > >> I wonder if Applications/Desktop would make sense, for desktop utilities, > >> which seems to be the term most used for this kind of thing. > > > > Rather Applications/"Desktop utilities" then, but I thi

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-24 12:33]: > Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > > I do see the need for some sort of general category for that kind of > > thing. Applications/Tools is way too general-sounding, though, and I > > agree with removing that. > > What about System/Administr

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Rather Applications/"Desktop utilities" then, but I think that would be >> a sensible addition. > We need a good definition for the section, so that it would not become a > dump for packages that do not fit elsewhere. Ideas? "Do

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russ Allbery wrote: >> What about System/Administration? It fits there because a) it changes >> the way your desktop environment behaves, and b) you would usually only >> start it once per session. > > This isn't horrible, but I don't think it's a pa

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Frank Küster
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think there are a fair number. While a lot of them can find room > elsewhere (such as Games/Toys for things like xeyes), I really wouldn't look for xeyes in Games. I use it not too rarely, just as a "mouse cursor magnifier" when working in brigth sun

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about System/Administration? It fits there because a) it changes > the way your desktop environment behaves, and b) you would usually only > start it once per session. This isn't horrible, but I don't think it's a particularly great solution. I t

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Davide Truffa
Linas Žvirblis ha scritto: > What about System/Administration? It fits there because a) it changes > the way your desktop environment behaves, and b) you would usually > only start it once per session. This seems to be the best solution, even if fbpanel (or others similar apps) aren't administrati

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Darren Salt wrote: > What would actually be useful is for packages which provide lots of menu > entries to use their own submenus. sgt-puzzles, which provides 27, is one > such; with several other entries in Games/Puzzles, it gets a bit long... If yo

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-24 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russ Allbery wrote: >> I was looking at the new menu structure to adopt it into my package, >> fbpanel[1], that before it was in Apps/Tools. Now this section is been >> removed and there's nothing else like this. > > I don't see an obvious place for

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Davide Truffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was looking at the new menu structure to adopt it into my package, > fbpanel[1], that before it was in Apps/Tools. Now this section is been > removed and there's nothing else like this. I don't see an obvious place for this one either. Window Manage

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would not separate "Applications" and "Games" whatsoever. [...] This doesn't really help the original poster, who doesn't have control over the menu hierarchy, and also doesn't really help get the menu hierarchy changed, since that requires discussion

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-23 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Eduard Bloch may or may not have written... > #include > * Davide Truffa [Mon, Jul 23 2007, 10:34:53PM]: >> I was looking at the new menu structure to adopt it into my package, >> fbpanel[1], that before it was in Apps/Tools. >> Now this section is been removed and there's nothing e

Re: New Debian Menu & Apps/Tools

2007-07-23 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Davide Truffa [Mon, Jul 23 2007, 10:34:53PM]: > Hi all, > > I was looking at the new menu structure to adopt it into my package, > fbpanel[1], that before it was in Apps/Tools. > Now this section is been removed and there's nothing else like this. > These are the actual sections: > >