Re: NM without X (general: users vs developers)

2012-03-23 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 22:29 +, Jon Dowland wrote: >> This is completely off-topic for -devel. Please take it to debian-user >> if you want to continue. > > No it is not, this is as important as the systemd/upstart/sysvint\ > issue, now b

Re: NM without X (general: users vs developers)

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 22:29 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > This is completely off-topic for -devel. Please take it to debian-user > if you want to continue. No it is not, this is as important as the systemd/upstart/sysvint\ issue, now being discussed on Debian devel. The general question is: How much

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Jon Dowland
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Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2012-03-23, Svante Signell wrote: > The man pages are not very informative either. lol whut? You're arguing for CLI tools and then fail to read our all favourite documentation source? $ gconftool --all-dirs / /system /desktop /schemas /apps Go figure. From there. Also you're not helpi

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 16:23 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Same problem seems to apply to gconf and its successor(s). > > Ah yes of course. Because gconftool(1) and gsettings(1) never worked > at all. I have tried gconftool before: gconftool Run 'gconftool --help' to see a full list of

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 14:16 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : > Regarding configuration of different tools, clicking here and there is > becoming more like the M$ world. If any kind of GUI makes you think of Microsoft, there’s not much we can do for you. > There you never know where the > co

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
> The answer is yes to the three questions; for controlling it’s a bit > complicated with the existing CLI tools, but it is very easy to > configure connections with ini-like configuration files and start them > without X. but wicd has front-ends for curses, cli, gnome, kde -- Salvo Tomaselli s

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 13:43 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 13:35 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : > > Can the Network Manager be controlled/started/configured in console mode > > when X is not running? If the answer to the above questions is yes, > > maybe that setting