Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-18 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Mar-00, 21:33 (CST), Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like I said though, I am not messing with any of this until potato is > released. Oh, absolutely. However, Wichert wrote "woody+2", which seemed excessive (at current rate of release, that's about 2003.) -- Steve Gre

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Tom Rothamel
On 16 Mar 2000 20:14:47 -0500, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > It's rather slow, since you need to unpack the .deb to get the md5sums > for its conffiles, read /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list to see if a conffiles > still belongs to a package, /var/lib/dpkg/status to get the previous > md5sums, etc. Actually,

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 08:36:15PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 16-Mar-00, 18:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, and you still loose if people don't use apt. > > Well, there's a *lot* features one doesn't get unless one uses apt. So? > > > There is already a patc

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Mar-00, 18:02 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and you still loose if people don't use apt. Well, there's a *lot* features one doesn't get unless one uses apt. So? > There is already a patch to make dpkg log things using syslog. At some > point I'ld like to generali

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Robert Thomson
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 06:24:47PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > > One other question: Does anyone think having a "never ask about this > > config file again" option is a good thing? I'm torn. > > Not on a per-conffile basis, I think. Maybe there should be a way to make > the default for _all_ conffil

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
It seems to me that a better way to do this (in the abstract case :) ) would be to librarify dpkg -- that is, to make a libdpkg which approximately parallels libapt. This would also have the effect of solving some annoying quirks in the apt/dpkg interaction which are caused (if I remember correc

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tom Rothamel wrote: > The problem I have is that dpkg keeps on prompting me as to the > disposition of config files I have changed. Don't get me wrong, I like > the fact that it asks me what to do... I just wish it would do it at > the start, and proceed cleanly through the upgrade witho

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Will Lowe
> Debconf integration doesn't seem all that likely, as the two are > fairly orthagonal. (In the Debian world, configuration and > configuration files seem to be rather distinct things.) Yes, they're pretty distinct, but it seems a little counterintuitive to have to "configure" a package twice: o

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Tom Rothamel
On 16 Mar 2000 16:06:34 -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > I've had the same thought, but not enough time to begin such a project. > I wonder if there would be some way to integrate this with the existing > debconf system -- if it uses the same interface, etc., end-users will be > much happier. I plan to

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Will Lowe
> - When apt runs to upgrade packages, it will call a new program (which > I plan to write) in the same way that it calls > dpkg-preconfigure. TNP would scan the list of upgraded packages, I've had the same thought, but not enough time to begin such a project. I wonder if there would be some

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Tom Rothamel
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:25:10PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > In /etc/apt/sources.list add these lines: > > DPkg > { > Options {"--force-confdef";} > } > > This will make dpkg always choose the default option to the conffile > questions. If there is no default, it will still prompt (not likely

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Stefan Ott
sounds nice. there's another thing about apt-get which IMHO should be changed (if this option already exists i'm sorry for being too lame for the docs): my connection often suffers time-outs and i afterwards have to do a --fix-missing. i think it would be nice if you could tell apt-get to try agai

Re: Less interactive upgrades.

2000-03-16 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 02:18:25PM -0500, Tom Rothamel wrote: > One of the minor annoyances in Debian is the prompting that goes on > during package upgrades. It's not the fact that the prompting > occurs... I like the fact that it doesn't silently redo the system > configuration... but rather the