* Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [041008 10:11]:
> > (b) what can be regarded as most useful for our users (I, at lest,
> > think it is, and some other people will as well, I hope).
>
> I don't really see how it's useful -- it doesn't matter what libs are used
> by an app.
In my
Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Jeff Teunissen [Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:52:37 -0400]:
>
> > What DOES bug me is mindlessly adding "gnustep-" to the names of all
> > packages that use it, because most of the developers of those packages
> > have dick to do with some mythical GNUstep desktop, which itself doe
* Jeff Teunissen [Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:52:37 -0400]:
> What DOES bug me is mindlessly adding
> "gnustep-" to the names of all packages that use it, because most of the
> developers of those packages have dick to do with some mythical GNUstep
> desktop, which itself does not exist.
but note that
Tilo Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 07 October 2004 10:09, Frank Küster wrote:
>> Tilo Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Monday 04 October 2004 20:23, Frank Küster wrote:
>> >> I must have missed this thread... What is ".bundle" meant to
>> >> indicate?
>> >
>> > On NeXT
On Thursday 07 October 2004 10:09, Frank Küster wrote:
> Tilo Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 04 October 2004 20:23, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> I must have missed this thread... What is ".bundle" meant to
> >> indicate?
> >
> > On NeXT-Step systems the ".bundle" suffix of a directory
Tilo Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 04 October 2004 20:23, Frank Küster wrote:
>>
>> I must have missed this thread... What is ".bundle" meant to
>> indicate?
>
> On NeXT-Step systems the ".bundle" suffix of a directory indicates a
> dynamically linkable module (basically like a s
Petri Latvala wrote:
[fixing attributions]
> On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 09:20, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> > [Steve Greenland wrote:]
> > > On 06-Oct-04, 06:41 (CDT), Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > And developers writing with GNUstep recognize the same thing. The
> > > > difference is t
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 09:20, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> > On 06-Oct-04, 06:41 (CDT), Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > And developers writing with GNUstep recognize the same thing. The
> > > difference is that we *have* to give enough information about an app
> > > using only two pieces
Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So do we. The names for GNUstep-based programs ARE unique -- no other free
> software is using (or, to my knowledge, has ever used) those names, and the
> names that "conflict" are named as they are for descriptiveness and for
> compatibility (Terminal,
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Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 06-Oct-04, 06:41 (CDT), Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And developers wri
Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Many "gnustep" apps OTOH, use absurdly generic names, and I can only
>> conclude that the developers do not think about mixed systems at all.
>
> I disagree in the first case, and you are incorrect in the second.
What can I say? You claim this, but th
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 07:41:03AM -0400, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> Miles Bader wrote:
> > Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For me, I don't want GNUstep in the names of my programs because I am
> > > not connected to GNUstep and don't want to be. It is just a couple of
> > > libraries
On Monday 04 October 2004 20:23, Frank Küster wrote:
> Hi,
>
> could you do me the favor of producing readable mails, i.e. with
> empty lines between text and quotes, and sensible line lengths?
>
> Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Frank,
> >
> >> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), lib
On 06-Oct-04, 06:41 (CDT), Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And developers writing with GNUstep recognize the same thing. The difference
> is that we *have* to give enough information about an app using only two
> pieces of information -- the name of the app and its icon.
"*Have*" to?
Miles Bader wrote:
> Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For me, I don't want GNUstep in the names of my programs because I am
> > not connected to GNUstep and don't want to be. It is just a couple of
> > libraries that I use to write my apps -- you wouldn't put "GTK+" in
> > the name o
> I am not sure what you mean by startup.
When Linux boots up.
> When the libraries were loaded, they started a few daemons, but, I
> believe KDE and GNOME libraries do the same thing. Again, how is GNUstep
> any different in this regard than the other desktop environments?
At one point in time,
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 07:40:06PM -0800, D. Starner wrote:
> > I just installed the textedit.app package; it pulled in a few GNUstep
> > libraries, but not a complete desktop environment.
>
> Do the GNUstep libs still start a demon at startup? Last time I
> checked, they did, instead of starting
> I just installed the textedit.app package; it pulled in a few GNUstep
> libraries, but not a complete desktop environment.
Do the GNUstep libs still start a demon at startup? Last time I
checked, they did, instead of starting them only if you were running
a GNUstep program, like KDE and GNOME d
Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For me, I don't want GNUstep in the names of my programs because I am not
> connected to GNUstep and don't want to be. It is just a couple of libraries
> that I use to write my apps -- you wouldn't put "GTK+" in the name of your
> apps, would you?
Most
Frank Küster wrote:
> Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Frank Küster wrote:
> >
> >> If I'm wrong, I apologize and will not object against cddb.bundle (at
> >> least not because of this. Still the ".bundle" part is meaningless to
> >> me, but that might be due to my bad english). If
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 11:00:56AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I said "without GNOME installed," I meant without the entire GNOME
> > desktop environment installed: nautilus, gnome-session, metacity, etc.
>
> No Gnome application I'm aware of r
Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I said "without GNOME installed," I meant without the entire GNOME
> desktop environment installed: nautilus, gnome-session, metacity, etc.
No Gnome application I'm aware of requires metacity. I don't believe
that gnome-session will be pulled in exc
Jeff Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Küster wrote:
>
>> If I'm wrong, I apologize and will not object against cddb.bundle (at
>> least not because of this. Still the ".bundle" part is meaningless to
>> me, but that might be due to my bad english). If I am not wrong, and
>> GNUstep app
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 07:44:12PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:27:59PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> I don't mind what it's called as long as I can see by its name that it
> >> is useless without gnustep. In other words: T
Frank Küster wrote:
> Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:27:59PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> Seo Sanghyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> >> > For example, "camera" package name was changed to "camera.app" to
> >> > prevent namespace pollution. Are you
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