Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 03:37:56PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 12:53:47PM +0200, ignatius wrote: > > I'm happy that you don't see me as a troll. > > I see your remarks as off-topic on this list, though. Please look for a > more appropriate list, debian-devel is

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 12:53:47PM +0200, ignatius wrote: > I'm happy that you don't see me as a troll. I see your remarks as off-topic on this list, though. Please look for a more appropriate list, debian-devel is for development. thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-24 Thread ignatius
[It's a general answer] I'm happy that you don't see me as a troll. I've already heard all these arguments that are _not_ arguments. For me the perfect distribution doesn't exist and never will (because of upstream). I have a simple dream : that Debian stable ships for instance linux 2.16 whi

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-23 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 6/22/07, Sam Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is nothing wrong with debian and if your are talking about windows then you are not even used to the "linux way" Wow, I've not seen a moronic argument like this in a while. -- -alex http://www.ventonegro.org/ -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-22 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 20:24:22 +0200, ignatius wrote: > - Why it's Debian that fixes bugs and security holes? Why it isn't upstream > developers? Generally upstream developers *will* fix security holes, however Debian users generally get their software from *us*. So if we're shipping so

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:24:22PM +0200, ignatius wrote: > I have two questions that really concerned me. > > - Why it's Debian that fixes bugs and security holes? Why it isn't > upstream developers? How can you be sure that all security holes will be > found or revealed? (for instance an old s

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-22 Thread Sam Leon
ignatius wrote: I have two questions that really concerned me. - Why it's Debian that fixes bugs and security holes? Why it isn't upstream developers? How can you be sure that all security holes will be found or revealed? (for instance an old software in stable can have a security issue whi

Re: I don't understand Debian

2007-06-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:24:22PM +0200, ignatius wrote: > I have two questions that really concerned me. > > - Why it's Debian that fixes bugs and security holes? There are lots of differences between: upstream and Debian release goals upstream and Debian build environment (debian has 10+ arch