Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/10/07 at 01:28 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 06:05:39PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > wnpp-alert may be useful to you - it will tell you if any of your > > packages are nominated for adoption or are orphaned. > > > I guess maybe this package can be added to the deb-a-

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 06:05:39PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:33:41PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > > At current, this

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Raphael Geissert
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 08:46:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing >> > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 08:46:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing > > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive is old and > > deprecated. > >

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 12/10/2007 Raphael Geissert wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > > At current, this is going to be noted on -devel. > > > > I would like a message o

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 13 October 2007 09:22, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Perfect example of a useless buggy package in debian. Anyone needing > dak uses the svn snapshot because the one in the archive is old and > deprecated. I think you are on a wrong track here. It might be an example of a poorly mai

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:33:41PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > If I am a user of one of these packages who may have the skill to adopt > it or may know someone who can, I may want to know about its orphaning. > At current, this is going to be noted on -devel. > > I would like a message on the user

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 02:37:50AM +, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Steve Greenland wrote: > > > On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Proposed workflow > >> - > >> Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a > >> scor

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Proposed workflow >> - >> Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a >> scoring system: >> - popcon score > > You might need to be a little careful with this

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Raphael Geissert
Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained >> or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both >> cases, because they are often related. (useless

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Steve Greenland
On 12-Oct-07, 02:13 (CDT), Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proposed workflow > - > Suspicious packages are found by combining different metrics into a > scoring system: > - popcon score You might need to be a little careful with this one. A package can be quite useful

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
All'incirca Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:13:11 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sembrerebbe aver scritto: > I think that the following makes sense: > - For packages where orphaning was proposed: 50 days > - For packages where removal was proposed: 100 days I am not a DD, so my opinion is not ver

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Michael Biebl dies 12/10/2007 hora 15:06: > > - For packages where orphaning was proposed: 50 days > > - For packages where removal was proposed: 100 days > As sune suggested, 1 and 2 months would be enough imo. As a compromise, the delay to orphan a package could be set to 1 month when th

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Lucas Nussbaum schrieb: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly > maintained, and vice-versa). I whole

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Some additional info might also be useful: >> - age of last upload >> - WNPP status (O, RFH, RFA) (for how long?) >> - Maintainer's MIA status >> - number of packages maintained by the maintainer >> - number of maintainers fo

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 12 octobre 2007 à 09:13 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly > ma

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 07:13:11AM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > This mail tries to address the problem of not orphaned, poorly maintained > or useless packages in Debian. The proposal below tries to address both > cases, because they are often related. (useless packages tend to be poorly

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-10-12, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] full ack to whatever you wrote here - and thank you for your nice work with this. > It's important to decide on reasonable delays. > - If the procedure takes too long, it will be discouraging I think that your proposed "times" falls