Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Wise: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access >> to the repository always needs some sort of authentication step? > > Not sure about for http/https/ssh but the git protocol allows for > anonymous push

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access > to the repository always needs some sort of authentication step? Not sure about for http/https/ssh but the git protocol allows for anonymous push access and git-daemon s

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-07-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ondřej Surý: > Also it still doesn't solve the issue the quarrel here is about - you > still need some account - in this case a local GitLab instance account > (well, Alioth could be used if that's in LDAP) to contribute. I don't quite understand this criticism. Surely direct write access to t

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-20 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 03:06:04PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, at 02:09, Brian May wrote: > > I have never actually used GitLab, so I can't actually comment on how > > good it is... > > Perhaps you should, before you start suggesting thing based on > GitLab... ;-) > > Anyway

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015, at 02:09, Brian May wrote: > I have never actually used GitLab, so I can't actually comment on how > good it is... Perhaps you should, before you start suggesting thing based on GitLab... ;-) Anyway - GitLab is quite good these days and it has matured[1], but it's a typical

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > It's a UI. The UI is really nice. That's why people use it. But > lock-in implies more than a really nice UI that people use because > it's superior. By lock-in I'm implying vendor lock-in: the customer or user is unable to switch away from the vendor's service without sig

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Brian May
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 00:19 Ben Finney wrote: > This is quite frustrating. There's some serious equivocating by GitHub > apologists in this discussion: It GitHub better then the open source GitLab? If the answer is Yes, is there any obstacles to trying to improve GitLab so it does what we wan

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 April 2015 at 02:18, Ben Finney wrote: > Robert Collins writes: > >> Have you used github? If not you should: the best position to critique >> a system from is one of familiarity. > > If I were to critique only the effects GitHub has for the individual who > uses it, that would be a valid p

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread James McCoy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:27:01AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The repositories and Git management are the very nice features of GitHub, > and there's nothing there data-wise you can't pretty trivially extract. > It's just a very nice UI. In fact, joeyh wrote a nice tool[0] that will extract all

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > We're told that GitHub has a raft of features that make it superior, > until it's pointed out that those features are GitHub-specific and > incompatible with collaborators from outside; then, conveniently, the > specialness of those features dwindles to insignificance because

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 20 avril 2015 00:18 +1000, Ben Finney  : > Likewise, as an external party Alice can collaborate via ‘git > send-email’ or ‘git request-pull’ on an equal footing with any other > repo (including GitHub repos). But Bob, having chosen GitHub's > proprietary pull requests as an essential part of hi

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: > > > How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull > > request? > > Public github repositories do not need a github account to clone. This is quite frustrating. There's some serious equivocating

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 > > Ben Finney wrote: > > > > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can > > > only work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and > > > any

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 avril 2015 19:00 +1000, Ben Finney  : >> The pull request exists on github, fine. > > How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull > request? Take a random PR: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/16258 Append ".patch" to get the patch: curl https://github.com/twb

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 19 April 2015 at 21:00, Ben Finney wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > >> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 >> Ben Finney wrote: >> >> > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only >> > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any >> > project using t

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: > > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only > > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any > > project using that feature is thereby locking its workflow to the > >

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: > > > Ben Finney writes: > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any > project using that feature is thereby locking its w