Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-02-04 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 02/02/2017 01:29 PM, Riku Voipio wrote: >>> I personally don't find "open core" projects to be fully free >>> software, even if they follow current DFSG, OSI, and FSF criteria. I >>> may be in a minority with that view, of course. > >> I am not sure what you mean with "debian", but we (git.d.

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-02-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jan 30 2017, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I personally don't find "open core" projects to be fully free > software, even if they follow current DFSG, OSI, and FSF criteria. This strikes me as a little odd, though. So if the company that sells the "closed shell" goes bust, would that turn the rema

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-02-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Riku Voipio writes ("Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services"): > OTOH I think the problem is not that "we don't have github workflow" > but "every maintainer invents their own workflow". The problem isn't the lack of agreement on gi

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-02-02 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 05:42:36PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Right, so the answer is that Gitlab is still an "open core" project. I > > therefore repeat that I find it sad that it's being pushed as a > > service for Debian to use. > > I personall

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:31:41AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Sorry, my e-mail was poorly worded. I'd like to know why Lars thinks > that they are not sufficiently free. I don't want to spend much time on this (there are backups to make and test) so I'll just link to the infinitely wise Bradley

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 09:53:49AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 05:18:38PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I personally don't find "open core" projects to be fully free > > software, even if they follow current DFSG, OSI, and FSF criteria. I > > may be in a minority with th

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Sean Whitton
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 04:59:00PM +, Ian Campbell wrote: > Lars said that even though they are DFSG-free they do not satisfy his > own personal Freeness criteria. He didn't suggest they weren't DFSG- > free which is what you seem to have read (judging from the final > sentence). Sorry, my e-m

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Sean Whitton
Dear Lars, On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 05:18:38PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I personally don't find "open core" projects to be fully free > software, even if they follow current DFSG, OSI, and FSF criteria. I > may be in a minority with that view, of course. Possibly we should change mailing lis

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2017-01-30 at 09:53 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Dear Lars, > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 05:18:38PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I personally don't find "open core" projects to be fully free > > software, even if they follow current DFSG, OSI, and FSF criteria. I > > may be in a minorit

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:16:59PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > On തിങ്കള്‍ 30 ജനുവരി 2017 07:05 വൈകു, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > Is the Gitlab software still an "open core" product of Gitlab the > > > company? > > > > > > > git.fosscommunity.in

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:16:59PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On തിങ്കള്‍ 30 ജനുവരി 2017 07:05 വൈകു, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Is the Gitlab software still an "open core" product of Gitlab the > > company? > > > > git.fosscommunity.in is running Gitlab Community Edition, code that is > DFSG c

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Pirate Praveen
On തിങ്കള്‍ 30 ജനുവരി 2017 07:05 വൈകു, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 06:57:46PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >> The entire idea of that instance is to make a 100% Free Software public >> git hosting service available to the Free Software community. > > Is the Gitlab software stil

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 06:57:46PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > The entire idea of that instance is to make a 100% Free Software public > git hosting service available to the Free Software community. Is the Gitlab software still an "open core" product of Gitlab the company? -- I want to build

Re: Git hosting for code that provides Debian services

2017-01-30 Thread Pirate Praveen
On വെള്ളി 20 ജനുവരി 2017 04:59 രാവിലെ, Ben Finney wrote: > Ian Jackson writes: > >> For a debian.org service, I would like to be able to check out the >> running version without interacting with a proprietary online service. > > I have been looking at the GitLab instance hosted at FOSS Community