> "Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Yann> Hi all of you... I've just been reading this (quite old for
Yann> now) thread. What's the status of the discussion now ? Has
Yann> there been some new feeback from other groups ?
I just discovered "/usr/share/keytables/hyp
Hi all of you...
I've just been reading this (quite old for now) thread. What's the
status of the discussion now ? Has there been some new feeback from
other groups ?
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Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ctrl+PrintScreen (=SysRq) should do a kernel info thing.
Have you heard of the GGI project? One of the things they have is a
SAK (secure attention key), which is guaranteed to kill all processes
running on the current VC. The key they're using at the moment f
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
>
> > I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
>
> Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
>
> So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
> etc.
> "DF" == David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:: Then I have a "Print" key, "Scroll-Lock", and "Pause". All
:: three keys don't have an effect in my X configuration--on the
:: console "Scroll-Lock" starts/stops terminal output, just like
:: "C-S and C-Q". Is there any useful
David Frey:
> > PS: I was never able to reliably switch the Ctrl/CapsLock key a la Sun.
On May 28, Kai Henningsen wrote
> And don't do this as a standard feature, either - CapsLock is bad enough
> on its own, but switching it with Ctrl would make a keyboard just about
> unusable for me. The w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Frey) wrote on 27.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> AltGr is a special modifier: it is a kind of Hyper key if you want
> (with Alt == Meta).
Ah yes, this brings up a point: *Don't* use Alt=(bit 0x80)! This won't
work for most people (anybody that needs more than ASCII).
On Mon, May 26 1997 20:40 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes:
> Then I have a "special ALT" key on my german kbd, that's label "Alt Gr".
> In DOS/Win95 it behaves like pressing Ctrl-Alt together. It's useful to
> get some "alt-alt keys" (for example, I have "=", "0", and, "}" on one
> key). I think th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>"Christoph" == Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Christoph> Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
> Christoph> STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
> Christoph> adapted. Pleas
> "Mark" == Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mark> I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it
Mark> before a broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if
Mark> not also comp.protocols.x.something?)
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or should I make a digest and f
I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it before a
broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if not also
comp.protocols.x.something?)
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>>"Christoph" == Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christoph> Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
Christoph> STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
Christoph> adapted. Please do use existing standards for keyboard
Christoph> layouts and character mapping!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> : What we want is:
> : * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
> : * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
> : * `Control'+`H' produces help in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote on 26.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What we want is:
> * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
> * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
> * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
> We want this to be true for the consol
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
>I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Count a MeToo from here :-)
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
> I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should produce the character that's printed on the key (this so
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Consider this another "me too".
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing STANDARD not screw u
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Cheers,
- Jim
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What we want is:
* `<--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for X, and even if you use
rlogin or telnet to get from one system to another.
Wha
Hi,
>>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> Perhaps we can make an exception for stupid emacs (yes, I
Christian> use it too :-)
Christian> I just had a look at the article again and it seams as the
Christian> author silently overrides ^H to behave like Backspace
> Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
in xterm, or in rxvt? (This is one of the two or three differences
between the rxvt and xterm termcap entries...)
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well, there is a half-baked idea that I've seen go by: in emacs, *if*
the user has done an stty erase ^h (ie. if the ltchars erase entry is ^h)
then treat ^h as backspace, otherwise treat it as help-char...
However, that's not going into debian emacs unless it goes into the
upstream version (19.35
> > For example, on my keyboard I can use the up- and down-arrow keys to
> > scroll in "less" (on the console and in an Xterm), but the PgUp and PgDn
> > keys only work in the Xterm--not on the console.
>
> Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
> xterms are in my ex
> "David" == David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> the PgUp and PgDn keys only work in the Xterm--not on the
>> console.
David> Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work
David> in xterms! xterms are in my experience in this regard
David> pathological
On Sat, May 24 1997 20:51 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes:
A agree 110%.
> Hi folks!
>
> I just read the excellent article "Consisten Keyboard Configuration" by
> John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38.
>
> It would be nice if we could specify a keyboard configuration in the
> Policy Man
On May 24, Christian Schwarz wrote
> I just read the excellent article "Consisten Keyboard Configuration" by
> John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38.
One of the things I missed in that article was how to get the console and X
to use the same composite definitions.
On my system, I've made
Excellent summary. This problem needs sorting out.
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Anyways, I don't want to mess around with different meanings of
> the Backspace/Delete keys all the time just because the author of Emacs
> did this mistake!
Absolutely.
> Let me summarize (and
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> See, I think this is buggy. I have been using Emacs for nearly
> a decade now, and nobody takes my C-H default away from me (in other
> words, people have had exposure to applications like emacs on othe
On 24 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Karl> The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for
> Karl> me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete
> Karl> sucks characters from the right, as you
Hi,
>>"Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Karl> The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for
Karl> me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete
Karl> sucks characters from the right, as you would expect after using
Karl> a DOS/Windows PC. I u
> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> I just read the excellent article "Consisten Keyboard
Christian> Configuration" by John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal,
Christian> issue #38.
I read it too, and tried some of the configuration given there.
Hi,
But can we get consensus on correct behaviour of keys? (the
classic example is the delete-backspace-Control H controversy [for
example, I personally want my backspace to delete character backwards
*all* the time, and not send C-H, and I don't really care about
delete, which would n
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