Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:18:26PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : > > I think you're confusing the buildd admin with the porters. I expect > porters to read the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, I don't expect > the same from the buildd admin. Dear all, Maybe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" lists should be read by

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-30 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > having one buildd maintainer per arch as opposed > to a team will allow one to faster see recurring obscure problems that > need fixing). That's the theory. The reality shows the exact contrary, at least for arm: - The chroot of "netwinder" is broken for weeks. - "tofe

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:24:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > I think you're confusing the buildd admin with the porters. I expect > > Maybe that's because the buildd admins used to be the porters, and then, > for some reason I do not understand, this mysteriously stopped being > true. Usuall

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Clint Adams
> I think you're confusing the buildd admin with the porters. I expect Maybe that's because the buildd admins used to be the porters, and then, for some reason I do not understand, this mysteriously stopped being true. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't you find it a bit hypocrit to have x86 uploads go directly to the >> archive, and not allowing even a single day delay which would allow to >> stop unclean DD-build-boxes breakage and a clean state, and on th

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:20:30AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > An arm buildd maintainer not reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] is simply not > doing his job as buildd maintainer. You can't pretend to be the one > handling builds for the whole archive while not following discussions > around problems sp

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread MJ Ray
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > Please show where reading everything on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is > > given as a requirement for buildd maintainership. > > It seems common sense! Huh? It seems common sense that most subscribers ignore at least so

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 04:45:32PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:39:13AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > All started with this email: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2006/08/msg00151.html > > > ARM was *in danger*, a lot of stuff (java, xulrunner, mono, ...) wer

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Julien BLACHE
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems common sense! Debian has a serious problem if you have to > write everything down. > > "A buildd maintainer must be able to type Unix commands on a > keyboard." "And the said keyboard must be connected one way or another to the said buildd

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:36:45AM +, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 43 lines which said: > > An arm buildd maintainer not reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] is simply not > > doing his job as buildd maintainer. > > Please show where reading everything on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is > given

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An arm buildd maintainer not reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] is simply not > doing his job as buildd maintainer. Please show where reading everything on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is given as a requirement for buildd maintainership. > You can't pretend to be the one

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 28 décembre 2006 à 16:45 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : > So first of all, neither the debian-arm list, nor the #debian-arm channel, > nor his blog are a communication medium that's guaranteed to reach the arm > buildd maintainer *or* the buildd local admins. For the former, you want > [

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 07:58:34AM +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't you find it a bit hypocrit to have x86 uploads go directly to the > archive, and not allowing even a single day delay which would allow to stop > unclean DD-build-boxes breakage and a clean state, and on the ot

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 04:45:32PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > So, why : > > * does aurelien initiative causes troubles ? > > If the packages he uploads have already been built (but not uploaded) by the > autobuilders, the packages in the archive will not correspond to the public > build

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-28 Thread Steve Langasek
Some of the comments and questions in this thread suggest gaps in understanding of the autobuilders, which I think warrant an answer. Hopefully this doesn't lead to more flames and recriminations... On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:03:35PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Aurelien mailed debian-arm, we

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Luk Claes a écrit : > How did Aurelien get wanna-build access for his buildd without > explaining to the respective team how the buildd was maintained in the > first place or did he not ask for it... > I have setup a wanna-build database (I am the one running the wanna-build database for hurd-i

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Banck
[this discussion is off-topic on -devel, please follow-up on -project] On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:51:55PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > How did Aurelien get wanna-build access for his buildd He didn't, it's a rogue autobuilder. Which is the reason it got blacklisted. > or did he not ask for it...

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Luk Claes
Pierre Habouzit wrote: I happened to have had access to the internet during my vacation, and I happened to read a backlog on #debian-release that frightens me: 15:52 aj | "# unilateral action to run an emulated buildd -- all arm changes sidelined until fixed." 15:52aba | oh, where? 15

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:03:35PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Aurelien mailed debian-arm, went to #debian-arm, had no response. He > then warn about his intention [1] to run qemu-based autobuilders to fill > the gap due to broken arm buildds. He did that on the open, and got ... > zero answe