On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 08:45:51PM +0100, Manfred Wassmann wrote:
> > Huch, "apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded" and you have fixed fonts
> > with latin15 charset. And visit:
> >
> > http://channel.debian.de/faq/DebianDE-21.html
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-euro-support/
>
> V
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
make hallo
> Huch, "apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded" and you have fixed fonts
> with latin15 charset. And visit:
>
> http://channel.debian.de/faq/DebianDE-21.html
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-euro-support/
Vielen Dank für
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:14:46PM +0200, Ari Makela wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
>
> In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
> but it's essential with Europe
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:55:10PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Actually, I don't think I've ever seen "AltGr" printed on a key, yet all the
> keyboards in .hr have the right alt doing that.
The Gr stands afaik for "Alternative Graphics". It is found mainly in
Europe if the keyboards does not follo
Ari Makela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dubitò:
> me neither. I must show my ignorance: I don't know what it
> is.
¥ means "yen", the Japanese currency.
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On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 01:55:10PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Actually, I don't think I've ever seen "AltGr" printed on a key, yet all the
> keyboards in .hr have the right alt doing that.
It's standard on UK keyboards.
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Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:54:16PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> You can now get POSIX online for free...
> URL?
Subscribe at
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On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 09:29:34PM +0200, Juha Jäykkä wrote:
> > But is doesn't have an AltGr key...
>
> I would say, AltGr is which ever key functions as Mode_switch. AltGr
> just something printed on the key functioning as Mode_switch on some
> keyboards. For example, I have CapsLock functioni
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
> > in the unix world until it's mandadted by some dead-tree standard for which
> > you have to pay a few hundred bucks.
>
> You can now get P
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:54:16PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> You can now get POSIX online for free...
URL?
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> My Microsoft Natural keyboard has the Euro symbol placed on the '5' of my
> keyboard, and this is a US version of the keyboard (at least that's what I
> ordered, and it has a '$' symbol)... But is doesn't have an AltGr key...
I would say, AltGr is which ever key functions as Mode_switch. AltGr
>
> The Euro is on the `4' of my keyboard, I think it should display a Euro
when
> used with the `Alt gr' modifier. Most UK keyboards that have been made in
> the last few years have a Euro symbol in the same place.
>
My Microsoft Natural keyboard has the Euro symbol placed on the '5' of my
keyboa
Bas Zoetekouw (2002-01-04 14:17:07 +0100) :
> Hi Andreas!
>
> You wrote:
[...]
>> Also an emacs started with that env setting doesn't do anything on
>> AltGr-e (without that setting, everything's OK: Â, see ;-)).
>
> Well, I get a little square here, but that's probably my own settings.
Nope.
Hi Andreas!
You wrote:
> When I use a iso8859-15 font in xterm, the euro will display
> correctly, but I can't enter it on the commandline, it only
> beeps. However, when I use 'read' and then enter AltGr-e, it works ok.
> However if I set LANG or LC_CTYPE to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' it no longer beep
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
> in the unix world until it's mandadted by some dead-tree standard for which
> you have to pay a few hundred bucks.
You can now get POSIX online for free...
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Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Well, that need not be the case here. All we need is a gizmo that
> > generates console keymaps from XKB description files, and then loads
> > them.
>
> That would be cool, and if I knew anything at all about either of the
> map
Branden Robinson wrote:
> Well, that need not be the case here. All we need is a gizmo that
> generates console keymaps from XKB description files, and then loads
> them.
That would be cool, and if I knew anything at all about either of the
maps, I'd be jumping to write it.
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On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:12:25PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
> > > console and X?
> >
> > Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
> > upstreams.
>
> And of course a little c
Branden Robinson wrote:
> > BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
> > console and X?
>
> Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
> upstreams.
And of course a little consistency and uniformity is too much to ask for
in the unix world until it
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 12:39:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
> console and X?
Yes. XFree86 and console-{tools,data} have completely different
upstreams.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ari Makela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>
>> As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
>
>In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
>but it's essential wit
Hi!
I'm using this discussion for the RFC for a bug/feature I'm
experiencing regarding the EURO-symbol. I still didn't get the
euro-sign to work in console, but that doesn't bother me because I do
almost everything under X.
When I use a iso8859-15 font in xterm, the euro will display
correctly, b
On 3/01, Ari Makela wrote:
| In the Nordic keyboard mappings too many important characters ( {[]}\$ to
| mention a few) are behind AltGR (the right alt). It's quite common that
| Nordic programmers use US mappings when they code or some home brewd
| version of US keymap.
A keyboard that is handy
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
In North America that's probably correct (what would they do with it?)
but it's essential with European languages with the possible exception of
British English.
In the
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:08:48AM +0100, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> I suppose swedish and danish keyboards are alike.
I think they are almost identical. AFAIK the only difference is that
'ä' and 'ö' have changed places on the keyboard. And, of course, the
Danes do not use 'ö' but ø but tha
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro
> - the French keymap (relative to US layout: <]>)
> - the Hungarian keymap (relative to US layout: <\>)
> - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>)
>
> Did I miss anything or is something wro
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> - Most keyboards have AltGr-e as Euro
As far as I know most keyboards don't have an AltGr key..
Wichert.
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On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:41:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
> Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
> used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
> of the ?. I
Hi Jan!
You wrote:
> And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose
> sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work.
-E and =E work for me.
BTW: is there any particular reason why the sequences differ between
console and X?
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"Zephaniah E\. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Excuse my ignorance but I have no keys labelled AltGr. Which is it?
>
> The right alt key.
And for those of us that type using 10 fingers, what is the compose
sequence? =e, $e, |e don't seem to work.
Jan.
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On Wednesday 02 January 2002 23:08, Mikael Hedin wrote:
> Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>)
>
> All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
> the ¤-symbol (currency).
I suppose swedish and danish k
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
> > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>)
> >
> > All my keyboards (swedish) have it on Alt
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
> Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>)
>
> All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
> the ¤-symbol (currency).
Excuse my ignorance
I demand that Miquel van Smoorenburg may or may not have written...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The best one is where microsoft put their symbol in
>> 'iso-8859-1'-cp1252-winlatin1, which is in 80, instead of a4 where
>> iso-8859-15 puts it. What
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - the Norwegian and Swedish keymap (relative to US layout: <4>)
All my keyboards (swedish) have it on AltGr + e. Shift + 4 is still
the ¤-symbol (currency).
/Micce
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> However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
> which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
> symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
> point setting LANG to nl, nl_NL or whatever. And there's no [EMAIL
> PROTE
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jan 02, Paul Dwerryhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
> Yes, you are.
>
> echo 'en_AU.ISO8859-15 ISO-8859-15' >> /etc/locale.gen
> locale-gen
Possibly dumb question: does it matter that the above
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ah, so *that's* why I'm seeing a lot of open squares on webpages
> where I should see a Euro symbol. Instead of using iso8859-15, the
> site is using M$ bastard-8859-1. Well perhaps the Linux distro's
> should follow that example, put a Euro sym
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +1100, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
> However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
> which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
> symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
> point sett
On Jan 02, Paul Dwerryhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
Yes, you are.
echo 'en_AU.ISO8859-15 ISO-8859-15' >> /etc/locale.gen
locale-gen
>have to change the LANG environment variable in order to access the Euro
>symbol.
You
#include
Joey Hess wrote on Tue Jan 01, 2002 um 11:33:48PM:
> Yeah Paul has a point. I'm in America; I've never even been to Europe,
> but since I do pay for things in (virtual) euro (gandi.net rules), it'd
> be odd to have to change my LANG to get the symbol. The Debian euro
Not LANG is the main
> Huch, "apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded" and you have fixed fonts
> with latin15 charset. And visit:
FWIW, it is latin9, not 15. (I know, I could have left this unsaid.)
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| Juha Jäykkä, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
Or Shift-AltGr-e (*) for us poor little individuals who do not have a
compose key on our keyboard (and have not bothered to map it anywhere);
I think this Cent-symbol belongs to ISO-8859-1, at least so this is not
"going crazy" about i18n as someone sugg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The best one is where microsoft put their symbol in
>'iso-8859-1'-cp1252-winlatin1, which is in 80, instead of a4 where
>iso-8859-15 puts it. What does most codepages use? 80 or A4? Does
>iso-8859-1 even have anything in 80?
Yeah Paul has a point. I'm in America; I've never even been to Europe,
but since I do pay for things in (virtual) euro (gandi.net rules), it'd
be odd to have to change my LANG to get the symbol. The Debian euro
faq was very unclear to me on that point though. What exactly doesn't
work if LANG is no
* Paul Dwerryhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020101 21:04]:
> adopted the Euro, but is it inconceivable that English speakers of non-Euro
> countries might need to use the Euro symbol?
"The new Latin9 nicknamed Latin0 aims to update Latin1 by replacing the
less needed symbols ¦¨´¸¼½¾ with forgotten Fr
Paul Dwerryhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
> have to change the LANG environment variable in order to access the Euro
> symbol.
I agree. I'm not sure if there is a real alternative, short of making
Debian completely Unicod
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:04, Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
> However, I tend to spend most of the year living in the Netherlands,
> which is one of the countries adopting the Euro, and there's no Euro
> symbol in the fonts used by en_AU. I don't speak Dutch, so there's not much
> point setting LANG to nl, n
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:29:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> You also have lot of troubles... After installing transcoded fonts and
> setting [EMAIL PROTECTED] the default font used by gtk applications is
> much smaller.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's actually quite annoying to
hav
On Jan 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Huch, "apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded" and you have fixed fonts
>with latin15 charset. And visit:
You also have lot of troubles... After installing transcoded fonts and
setting [EMAIL PROTECTED] the default font used by gtk applications
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 07:53:46PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
> >
> > Anybody knows anything about it?
>
> Huch, "apt-get install xfonts-base-transcoded" and you have fixed fonts
> with latin15 charset.
My -misc-fixed fonts already have
#include
Bernd Eckenfels wrote on Tue Jan 01, 2002 um 07:21:17PM:
> On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
> > It's available in the standard fixed font for X.
>
> a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
>
> Anybody
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russell Coker wrote:
> > (*) There is a symbol used occasionally that is a 'c' with two small
> > vertical lines going through the top and the bottom. But it doesn't appear
> > on any typewriter or computer keyboard, there are no special fonts in
> > co
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> There is a cent symbol: ¢ (compose c |)
> It's available in the standard fixed font for X.
a related note, when will the Euro be part of fixed? :)
Anybody knows anything about it?
Greetings
Bernd
Russell Coker wrote:
> (*) There is a symbol used occasionally that is a 'c' with two small
> vertical lines going through the top and the bottom. But it doesn't appear
> on any typewriter or computer keyboard, there are no special fonts in common
> use for displaying it, so everyone uses the
begin Eduard Bloch quotation:
> I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
> Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
> used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
> of the ¤. I cannot found good and trustwor
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:41, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
> Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
> used for this.
Why is there a sudden need for a cent symbol?
Australia has had cents for 35 years w
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> I tried to include the support for Euro and Cent in the console keymaps.
> Cent is not a problem. It is allmost unknown and AltGR-e could be surely
> used for this. But Euro is a problem - keymaps have different location
> of the ¤. I cannot f
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