Well, please ignore the precedent (was Re: Documentation/License freeness)

1998-06-10 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 06:41:25PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:39:38AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > >

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-10 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 07:56:31PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Hello Fabien! Hello Marcus! > > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 10:41:38AM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand you well but here is my opinions about freeness > > of Documentation: > > > > Documentation descri

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-09 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:39:38AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > Documentation may be include

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello Fabien! On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 10:41:38AM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > I'm not sure I understand you well but here is my opinions about freeness > of Documentation: > > Documentation describing the functionnality of a software are dependant > of the software. Then, they should be consid

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-09 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:22:33AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions > > on the unmodified use of the documentation

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:39:38AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions > > >

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-08 Thread James Troup
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (including the Linux/m68k FAQ, which isn't in Debian because it's > not DFSG-free and I have no intention of making it DFSG-free), Great Chris, but what happens if, God forbid, you (and Jörg) were to be run over by a bus tomorrow? Your FAQ becomes wor

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-08 Thread Raul Miller
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dunno. But a lot of people have a copyright restriction in the document to > make sure that the actual integrity of the standard remains intact (see, for > example, the W3C's standards for HTTP and HTML). This need is met by a "label is sacred" sort of

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-08 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions > > on the unmodified use of the

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-08 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jun 08, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I can't imagine why people are afraid that other people will change the > standards. Why should anybody try to apply essential changes to, for > example, the FSSTND? Dunno. But a lot of people have a copyright restriction in the document to make sure that the

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions > on the unmodified use of the documentation and no restrictions on > translating the documentation to another format, pr

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-07 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Santiago Vila Doncel, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: >- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 2 21:45:40 1998 >Date: 28 May 1998 22:02:52 -0400 > >Once upon a time, I thought I would learn Perl. I got a copy of a >free manual, but I found it simply unre

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-07 Thread Raul Miller
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [RMS article omitted because it may only be distributed "verbatim"; my > quoting would violate his copyright] No, fair use allows quotes. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-07 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote: > This could be more than what is really needed. > > I think we should just add a paragraph to the DFSG saying that although > the DFSG applies to *software*, modifying the documentation for such > software should be also allowed, in general, because otherwise the >

Re: Documentation/License freeness

1998-06-06 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I think: > > * We should treat documentation under the same terms as software, as we need > it to use the software successfully and we'll have the same benefits of free > documentation as we have of free software.

Re: Documentation/License freeness (what RMS says about it) [rms@santafe.edu: Re: GPL itself non-free]

1998-06-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 11:54:26AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Fri, Jun 5, 1998 3:26 pm +0200 "Marcus Brinkmann" > > > [Marcus asked:] > > It seems to imply, that I'm not allowed to derive a new license, using > > portions of the GPL (even when changing the name). Is that correct? >

Re: Documentation/License freeness (what RMS says about it) [rms@santafe.edu: Re: GPL itself non-free]

1998-06-06 Thread Jules Bean
--On Fri, Jun 5, 1998 3:26 pm +0200 "Marcus Brinkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello! > > This is thereply I got from RMS about the copyright freeness issue. > > I think it is clear that we should lay the license freeness issue ad acta. > Debian should include all licenses in whole, and

Re: Documentation/License freeness (what RMS says about it) [rms@santafe.edu: Re: GPL itself non-free]

1998-06-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Hello! > > This is thereply I got from RMS about the copyright freeness issue. > > I think it is clear that we should lay the license freeness issue ad acta. > Debian should include all licenses in whole, and the dfsg should not exactly > apply to