Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-07-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Jon Dowland writes ("Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate"): > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:30:36AM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > > - For Squeeze+1: just drop it Why would we ever need to drop it ? > At some point, sqwalk on STDERR on invocation about its > depr

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-07-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:30:36AM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > >From what was said in this thread, a quite feasible solution could be: > - For Squeeze: a package "ntpdate" which depends on rdate and > provides a wrapper script, used to emulate ntpdate's main functionality > (set the syste

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-04-24 13:53, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 24 April 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Florian Lohoff wrote: rdate ist not a replacement for ntpdate - it does not use the ntp protocol but the time protocol (builtin inetd) - So making ntpdate depend on rdate is not a solution as it changes the protocol

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-25 Thread José Luis Tallón
Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:30:36AM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > >> - For Squeeze: a package "ntpdate" which depends on rdate and >> provides a wrapper script, used to emulate ntpdate's main functionality >> (set the system's clock) in terms of rdate and mark it a

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 24 April 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > rdate ist not a replacement for ntpdate - it does not use the ntp > > protocol but the time protocol (builtin inetd) - So making > > ntpdate depend on rdate is not a solution as it changes the protocol > > and i dont think all nt

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-24 Thread Frans Pop
Florian Lohoff wrote: > rdate ist not a replacement for ntpdate - it does not use the ntp > protocol but the time protocol (builtin inetd) - So making > ntpdate depend on rdate is not a solution as it changes the protocol > and i dont think all ntp servers also open/support the time protocol. rda

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:30:36AM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > - For Squeeze: a package "ntpdate" which depends on rdate and > provides a wrapper script, used to emulate ntpdate's main functionality > (set the system's clock) in terms of rdate and mark it as deprecated > > - For Sque

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-24 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:30:36 +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > - For Squeeze: a package "ntpdate" which depends on rdate and >provides a wrapper script, used to emulate ntpdate's main functionality >(set the system's clock) in terms of rdate and mark it as deprecated Isn't rdate what we tried

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <20090423163842.ge7...@anguilla.noreply.org> you wrote: > I regularly* use ntpdate -u -q -d (unpriv, query, debug). It's useful > for debugging or just querying other ntp servers. Does the ntpd suite > provide anything with similar functionality? I think ntpdc can provide most of that

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread José Luis Tallón
Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Peter Eisentraut (pet...@debian.org): > >> Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better >> ask >> here for objections. >> >> Would there be a possibility to prove some kind of wrapper for those >> among our users who might have v

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Peter Eisentraut (pet...@debian.org): > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better > ask > here for objections. Would there be a possibility to prove some kind of wrapper for those among our users who might have various local stuff that are using ntpdate

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Harald Braumann
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:19:07 +0200 Stefan Ott wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 17:45, Peter Eisentraut > wrote: > > > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd > > better ask here for objections. > > I still use it when a system's clock is way off and I just want it t

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 23, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better > ask > here for objections. If it's going to removed from the upstream package then we should follow. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > As described in bug #514318 and elsewhere, the upstream NTP Project has > deprecated the ntpdate program a long time ago, and it may be time to drop it > from the Debian distribution. > Most of the functionality of ntpdate is now provided by ntpd (

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 23 Apr 2009, Stefan Ott wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 17:45, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better > > ask > > here for objections. > > I still use it when a system's clock is way off and I just want it to Sorry for c

Re: Considering the removal of ntpdate

2009-04-23 Thread Stefan Ott
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 17:45, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Nevertheless, since ntpdate used to be quite popular, I figured I'd better ask > here for objections. I still use it when a system's clock is way off and I just want it to be set to the right time, right now. I guess there are options to n