Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-10-16 10:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: The mails to the @buildd addresses are of course private to those behind the list, so the peanut gallery on -devel can't see what tg wrote nor judge for ourselves whether it was whiny or not, but characterising it as such here is not helpful. TG's ma

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-10-16 10:10, Andreas Barth wrote: Wrong again, I dist-upgraded the chroots and gave back the package. But as before, facts are difficult. FWIW, you did not update neither the d-d nor the buildd.d.o thread about that. Which means that the other people think that it's still open. Kind

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > But it’s now resolved, thanks Philipp! > > > > Wrong again, I dist-upgraded the chroots and gave back the package. > > But as before, facts are difficult. > > Likewise, you could have pointed this out without being quite so condecending. Uhm ye

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:10:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > You didn't ask a wider audience, you whined to one, and that on > something totally unrelated to the thing you really wanted. The mails to the @buildd addresses are of course private to those behind the list, so the peanut gallery on

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thorsten Glaser (t.gla...@tarent.de) [141016 09:39]: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Buildd administration — @buildd.debian.org > > lists a couple of people. And also a working mail address. Contacting > > people via a role account is always prefered. > > Yeah, that’s whom I

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Andreas Barth wrote: > Buildd administration — @buildd.debian.org > lists a couple of people. And also a working mail address. Contacting > people via a role account is always prefered. Yeah, that’s whom I contacted first, on Friday. It was just not getting any sort of respo

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Paul Wise (p...@debian.org) [141015 17:22]: > [ powerpc buildd admins ] > According to LDAP it appears to be wouter, he, pkern. This list is incomplete. There are more people, especially there is a group who is buildd admin on all buildds, and tends to fix problems if they are known. (However, t

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thorsten Glaser (t...@mirbsd.de) [141013 12:05]: > sbuild/buildd runs apt-get update, but not apt-get *upgrade, > before each build. But I assume this should not be changed > either… > > So we need either a technical, or a policy-ical, or a human, > solution to this problem, right? Or we just h

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thorsten Glaser (t.gla...@tarent.de) [141015 16:20]: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > Thorsten Glaser (2014-10-15): > > > Who are powerpc buildd admins, again? > > > > Still listed at the same location since last time you asked: > > Yeah, I tend to forget it. > > > https

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Thorsten, On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:05:21PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: [...] > from dak, because the version is neither in testing (yet or > still) and not in unstable (any more) and so not known to > dak. The buildd admins do not react on this and happily > ignore eMails asking them, polit

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > > Ah wonderful, a set of 0 people. No surprise then. Unfortunately that page is maintained manually. According to LDAP it appears to be wouter, h

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Thorsten Glaser (2014-10-15): > > Who are powerpc buildd admins, again? > > Still listed at the same location since last time you asked: Yeah, I tend to forget it. > https://www.debian.org/intro/organization Ah wonderful, a set of 0 people. No s

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Thorsten Glaser (2014-10-15): > Who are powerpc buildd admins, again? Still listed at the same location since last time you asked: https://www.debian.org/intro/organization https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/07/msg00446.html KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Wookey wrote: > I _think_ we don't do this because the upgrading uses a lot of time on > buildds, especially slow ones. I did do this (build in snapshot, Right. > the same packages over and over until the snapshot was updated (which > was manual and done approx weekly). This

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:17:19AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Thorsten Glaser [2014-10-13 12:05 +0200]: > > sbuild/buildd runs apt-get update, but not apt-get *upgrade, > > before each build. But I assume this should not be changed > > either… > > I _think_ we don't do this because the upgrading u

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-13 Thread Wookey
+++ Thorsten Glaser [2014-10-13 12:05 +0200]: > Hi all, > > > sbuild/buildd runs apt-get update, but not apt-get *upgrade, > before each build. But I assume this should not be changed > either… I _think_ we don't do this because the upgrading uses a lot of time on buildds, especially slow ones.