On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> At least to me my work on Haskell in Debian feels more than pretending,
> and from personal experience with the creators of the language, I have
> strong doubts that they are Idiots.
They are not, they are very smart, but they are
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 17:03 +0100 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> > Just imagine what would happen if libc6 would be statically
> > linked, and a security bug happens inside (like, in the stub
> > resolver). Rebuilding the world on every update might b
* Adam Borowski:
> If there is a bug in library A, if you use static linking, you need to
> rebuild every single library B that uses A, then rebuild every C that
> uses B, then finally every single package in the archive that uses any
> of these libraries.
But wouldn't it be great if all the peop
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 17:03 +0100 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> It's not a matter of "a little infrastructural complication", it's about
> having the slightest chance of reasonable security support -- or even
> regular bug f
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> At least to me my work on Haskell in Debian feels more than pretending,
> and from personal experience with the creators of the language, I have
> strong doubts that they are Idiots.
>
> In fact I don’t see how you can have modern
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 10:53 + schrieb Steve McIntyre:
> Paul Wise wrote:
> >On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> >
> >> Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we
> >> get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to
On 05/02/2013 18:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> FFS, yet another new language where the implementors have refused to
> think ahead and consider ABI handling? Idiots. :-(
I totally agree with you here.
> Considering the mess that we already have with (for example) Haskell
> in this respect, I would v
Paul Wise wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
>
>> Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we
>> get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to declare
>> an ABI break. Inventing one and asking all upstream projects to adopt
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we
> get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to declare
> an ABI break. Inventing one and asking all upstream projects to adopt it
> seems unlikely t
Hi Hilko,
Hilko Bengen writes:
> Sure. See the Makefile at the end of this mail. Please note that I
> [...]
Thanks for the instructions. I reproduced them and got shared libraries
plus dynamically linked binaries.
Aside from details about the split stack flags, now one big question
arises:
Assu
Hi Matthias,
Matthias Klose writes:
> Am 31.01.2013 13:02, schrieb Hilko Bengen:
>> 2. -fno-split-stack
>>Otherwise I could not link executables and got the following error
>>message:
>>/usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: cindex: hidden symbol `__morestack' in
>>/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4
Am 31.01.2013 13:02, schrieb Hilko Bengen:
> 2. -fno-split-stack
>Otherwise I could not link executables and got the following error
>message:
>/usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: cindex: hidden symbol `__morestack' in
>/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/libgcc.a/morestack.o) is referenced
>by
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