Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Apr-05, 05:12 (CDT), Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why re-write cron when cron only needs a minor change? > > I'm afraid I again can't follow your thinking. I'm pretty sure that he was only talking about implementing @reboot in bcron, rather than requiring a whole new system

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-21 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 11:45:24AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 20:05, Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I think that user specific services are useful, I don't think cron > > is the right place for that. The init system should support user-owned > > servi

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 14 April 2005 20:05, Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > automatically starting a screen session at startup? > > While I think that user specific services are useful, I don't think cron > is the right place for that. The init system should support user-owned > services and an in

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-14 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:50:16PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > what about the "@reboot" extension? I think that's a really neat feature. > > > > /etc/rdS.d > > > > I know, tha

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > > > significantly easier than "0 0

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 16:30 (CDT), Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see plenty : I have a mini daemon on one of my accounts that I really > need. but since I'm not root on the machine, I need to be able to use > @reboot to restart No you don't. See my reply to Wesley. Steve -- Steve

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 14:24 (CDT), "Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know, that's not accessible to users, only the admin. OTOH, I can't > > think of any really good reason that user needs to do something > > *automatically* on reboot. > > Perhaps user-run services? So run a script e

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> I know, that's not accessible to users, only the admin. OTOH, I can't > think of any really good reason that user needs to do something > *automatically* on reboot. I see plenty : I have a mini daemon on one of my accounts that I really need. but since I'm not root on the machine, I need to be

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 10 April 2005 12:08, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > > > significantly easier than

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > > significantly easier than "0 0 * * *" but apparently some people get all > > sweaty

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > significantly easier than "0 0 * * *" but apparently some people get all > sweaty if they have to type an asterisk. what about the "@reboot" extension? I think th

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-08 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 04:27:27PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2005, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > This is bcron, a new cron system designed with secure operations in mind. > > Neat! Any chance of adding fcron-like functionality? I got used to its very > advanced anacronis

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Greenland
On 07-Apr-05, 12:24 (CDT), Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looking at the site, it appears to have the required functionality > > (/etc/cron.d, etc.). One line item that is not yet supported is @reboot, > > @daily, etc. > > Correct. I checked that it provides the functionality mandate

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005, Gerrit Pape wrote: > This is bcron, a new cron system designed with secure operations in mind. Neat! Any chance of adding fcron-like functionality? I got used to its very advanced anacronistic-cron capabilities. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One di

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 07:35:25AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 07-Apr-05, 06:40 (CDT), Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:45:15 +, Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >This is bcron, a new cron system designed with secure operations in mind. > > >

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:47:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 06-Apr-05, 14:45 (CDT), Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There'll be two binary packages: bcron, containing the bcron programs > > and documentation, and bcron-run, setting up the bcron services, and > > providing, rep

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Greenland
On 07-Apr-05, 06:40 (CDT), Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:45:15 +, Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >This is bcron, a new cron system designed with secure operations in mind. > >To do this, the system is divided into several separate programs, each > >r

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:45:15 +, Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is bcron, a new cron system designed with secure operations in mind. >To do this, the system is divided into several separate programs, each >responsible for a separate task, with strictly controlled communications >bet

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 06-Apr-05, 14:45 (CDT), Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There'll be two binary packages: bcron, containing the bcron programs > and documentation, and bcron-run, setting up the bcron services, and > providing, replacing, and conflicting with the default cron package. It looks like