Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-08-25 Thread David Moreno
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 10:55 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Anyhow, we have to choose among: > 1) document and make the procedure work > 2) bug the packages which are using the undocumented procedure Seconded. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Package: type-handling > Well, that's the good-old type-handling, something we hoped we wouldn't > need in 2008 anymore. > > > Michael I thought so too but I can't find any of the type-handling magic for install time depends in dpkg. Only the buildti

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:36:09PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > It probably should if all of the software or at least most (plus all of > > the package installation software) supports them properly. Does it? > > No. The only support that dpkg has is that those arch-limitations are used > by

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I've found no similar text for run-time relationships. > > > > Should the policy be updated on this? > > It probably should if all of the software or at least most (plus all of > the package installation software) supports them properly. Does it? No.

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > On a hunch I checked the Packages.gz files on my system and found the > following example: > > Package: libgnomevfs2-dev > Architecture: amd64 > Source: gnome-vfs > Version: 1:2.22.0-4 > Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 1:2.22.0-4),

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:34:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Different situation. The ocaml debs have the same depends on every >> architecture for the individual deb. They might differ between debs >> but not between archs for one arch:

Re: Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Terrific, I will give that a try, thanks very much! -Adam -- GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Engineering consulting with open source tools http://www.opennovation.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Interesting. > > The problem with them is that policy does not allow them :-) Well, to be > precise, policy mentions that build-time relationships in debian/control > can be restricted to a certain set of architectures; it does not state > anything

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:34:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Different situation. The ocaml debs have the same depends on every > architecture for the individual deb. They might differ between debs > but not between archs for one arch:all deb. Nope. I was talking about OCaml programs sh

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:26:21AM +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote: > What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've > used them just fine (in wine, see libwine-dev) for a while, no apparent > problems. I think they do only work for arch:any packages, though, as > they seem to b

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Ove Kaaven wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli skrev: >> Since apparently there are quite cases like that, what is the reason for >> forbidding arch-specific dependencies in control? Can we reconsider >> that? > > What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've > used them just fine (

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 04:28:28PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: >> I maintain a set of packages which depend openmpi which is missing on >> certain architectures. To get around the latter problem, I use > > I've frequently a similar issues: OCaml

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Ove Kaaven
Stefano Zacchiroli skrev: Since apparently there are quite cases like that, what is the reason for forbidding arch-specific dependencies in control? Can we reconsider that? What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've used them just fine (in wine, see libwine-dev) for a

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 04:28:28PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > I maintain a set of packages which depend openmpi which is missing on > certain architectures. To get around the latter problem, I use I've frequently a similar issues: OCaml programs compiled in bytecode depends on C stubs to in

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 18:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Because hypre upstream doesn't make static libs, and I got tired of >> > making a new patch with every release, libhypre-dev is arc

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-22 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 18:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Because hypre upstream doesn't make static libs, and I got tired of > > making a new patch with every release, libhypre-dev is arch all without > > static libs. However, it needs to

Re: Arch-dependent Depends

2008-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because hypre upstream doesn't make static libs, and I got tired of > making a new patch with every release, libhypre-dev is arch all without > static libs. However, it needs to depend on openmpi on some arches, and > lam4-dev on others. Using the s