Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:22:06PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be f

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > > car

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Joey Hess
Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > What's about dh_undocumented looking like: > -- > #!/bin/bash > if [ $FORCE_UNDOCUMENTED = 1 ]; then > echo You are still using dh_undocumented which is obsoleted. > echo Stop it. > else > echo You are using obsoleted dh_undocumented in your debian

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:26:44AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > care. > No. Breaking 400+ packages so our uses cannot build them

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:51:27PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > > use me" as the next step? That way a

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > > care. > > this will still create fa

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Could the dh_undocumented programm allways fail with an error "Don't > use me" as the next step? That way all new uploads will be forced to > care. this will still create fail to build bugs for no good reason. Greetings Bernd --

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > > > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." > > > > As a rule I try to avoid causing less than

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-05 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." > > As a rule I try to avoid causing less than 469 FTBFS bugs with any given > chang

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Joey Hess
Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." As a rule I try to avoid causing less than 469 FTBFS bugs with any given change I make to debhelper. I have removed programs when

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:57:54PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > I think that next step to be taken is informing concerned developers > by email (debian-devel isn't obligatory). This is not needed, it is included in the policy change document. All developers who upgrade the policy standard w

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:27:35PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > It _is_ already the case, also for linda. And you can get results > quite easy from > http://lintian.debian.org/reports/Tlink-to-undocumented-manpage.html This is treated by lintian as a warning. Policy says, that lack of manpage is c

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bernd Eckenfels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030704 20:50]: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:24:20PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." > well, this would break co

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:24:20PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > OTOH, maybe dh_undocumented should be removed from debhelper with prior > notice? "This program does nothing and should no longer be used." well, this would break compatibility. IMHO i think it is enough to add a lintian check

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 05:59:57PM +0200, Benjamin Drieu wrote: > This doesn't help if you maintain dozens of packages and you just want > to know if one of your packages is offending. On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:18:06PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Uhm, it's far easier just to generate the list

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Artur R. Czechowski" | On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 09:47:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > | I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a | > | quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: | > Such a list is useless unless it includes maintainer address

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Benjamin Drieu
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 09:47:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> | I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a >> | quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: >> Such a list is useless unless it inclu

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 09:47:52AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a > | quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: > Such a list is useless unless it includes maintainer addresses (or > just maintainer names) as

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003, Joey Hess wrote: > I've recently revamped my debhelper graph page to make it easier to > track deprecated programs. The ones that don't seem likely to go away at > all soon are dh_installmanpages and dh_movefiles. Especially since some of us do like dh_movefiles a LOT :-) --

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin Brederlow | I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a | quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: [...] Such a list is useless unless it includes maintainer addresses (or just maintainer names) as well. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030704 05:35]: > I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a > quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: > [...] > libapache-mod-dav You must have done something wrong as since 1.0.3-6 dh_undocumented is not long

Re: 469 packages still using dh_undocumented, check if one is yours

2003-07-04 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin Brederlow wrote: > I came accross some sources still using dh_undocumented so I did a > quick search through sids *.diff.gz files. Here is the result: At prsent rates, I expect we will be down to maybe 50 packages calling this in 1 year's time, at which point some bug reports could be filed