Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 12:56:58PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > ouch! please do file this as a distinct bug report, it's something i > haven't run into myself and i'd like to track it down. Done, that's #833596. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . .

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2016-08-06 06:32:39 -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> >> systemctl --user enable gpg-agent >> >> systemctl --user enable dirmngr > > OTOH, doing this inhibited a proper start of my GNOME session at next > login: only Nautilus started (I can tell because I've it handle my > desktop icon

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2016-08-06 02:24:24 -0400, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > >> There are good reasons to want to have the agent running over time and >> not terminating with the individual invocations of gpg1. In particular, >> passphrase caching and smartcar

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 08:24, p...@debian.org said: > BTW, does this make parcimonie obsolete? I noticed that dirmngr We plan to add similar fucntionality to dirmngr but that has not yet been done and I am not sure whether we will have it for 2.2. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind fr

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ quoted text reordered ] On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 02:43:30PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > The simplest way to see the control group hierarchy is with "systemctl > status". When these processes are launched by the user service, they'll > end up in the user@.service like this: [...] > If

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Peter Colberg
On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 04:02:07PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > My long-term goal is to have these things Just Work without *any* > explicit user intervention. > > That is, i want: "If the package is installed, it should work for you." > and not: "oh, if you want things to actually work, ju

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2016-08-05 15:03:29 -0400, Peter Colberg wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 01:51:07PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> I don't think there's any need to add no-autostart in this case. in >> particular, the daemon will already be running, so any consideration of >> autostart will just det

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Peter Colberg
On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 01:51:07PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I don't think there's any need to add no-autostart in this case. in > particular, the daemon will already be running, so any consideration of > autostart will just detect and make use of the already-running daemon. This is pre

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2016-08-05 14:17:23 -0400, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 12:41:18PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> On desktop systems (where i'd expect the majority of secret key access >> happens), for folks who are running systemd, i recommend enabling the >> systemd user servi

Re: [pkg-gnupg-maint] Beware of leftover gpg-agent processes

2016-08-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2016-08-05 13:39:10 -0400, Peter Colberg wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 12:41:18PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> On desktop systems (where i'd expect the majority of secret key access >> happens), for folks who are running systemd, i recommend enabling the >> systemd user services,