Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:29:00PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > The problem here is that we can't distribute it under the terms of the GPL > (read the kde announcement) while they say it is plain GPL, so they say > they can include other people's GPL-ed stuff. glibc2 doesnt have a > contradicto

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > > > with XForms. > > > > [...] > > > > > > I don't think s

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? > > Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that > Ulrich Depper didn't include n

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include non-GPL stuff in his glibc? You can ask this ofr every

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Russell Coker
>> > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to >> > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx >> > > with XForms. >> > > [...] >> > >> > I don't think so. It is not enough for KDE, why should it be enough for >> > LyX ? >> >> It's not en

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: > > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > > with XForms. > > > > I don't see how it follows. "

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:18:53PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: > Because *implicit* permission isn't good enough. By default *nothing* is > allowed. So every right the authors grant you had better be written down > in a license accompanying the software, otherwise one of the authors (or > sometimes

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > with XForms. > > I don't see how it follows. "we have implicitly allowed all use

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > > [...] > > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > > with XForms. > > >

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Shaleh
The main difference is that LyX is THEIR code. The problem w/ KDE is not so much its own code, rather it links other peoples GPL app w/QT and KDE to make Kapp. This is the brunt of the legal issue. The authors of app where not asked if it was ok to link w/QT, nor was the license modified to refl

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > [...] > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > with XForms. > > [...] > > I don't think so. It is not enough for KDE,

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: > I don't see how it follows. "we have implicitly allowed all users to > link LyX with XForms" does not imply "we have implicitly allowed > (re)distribution of the resulting LyX binaries", which I guess is the > issue at hand. Becau

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Raja R Harinath
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would this be enough for LyX? I think so. > > - Forwarded message from Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > To: lyx@via.ecp.fr > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: copyright problem > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) > D

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-11 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > Would this be enough for LyX? I think so. > > > [...] > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > with XForms. > [...] I don't think so. It is not en