Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-08-07 Thread Andrea Glorioso
> "nvy" == Nikita V Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: nvy> The thing I really don't like in debian-cd is the requirement nvy> to have a local mirror. I prefer to use apt-get (+apt-proxy) nvy> to fetch packages while building CD. I have a (currently nvy> ugly) script to do

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-28 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions [Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 11:10:40PM -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > # check whether we run interactively > > [ "$PS1" ] || return > > > > (So

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Christoph Berg wrote: > The problem that one doesn't want things like .bash_completion read > there is easily solved by > > # check whether we run interactively > [ "$PS1" ] || return > > (Something like that exists in Debian's /etc/skel/.bash_profile.) Uh, no. You are thinking of /

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-27 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > - Preconfigure the packages we install > > Using two different approaches: (1) Load answers into the debconf > database before the packages are installed using some home-make > scripts, and (2) rewrite/replace c

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-27 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions ["Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:30:33AM +0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > if [ -r $HOME/.profile ] ; then > > . $HOME/.profile > > fi > > St

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] >> Another thing is replacing "#!/bin/sh" by "#!/bin/bash --login" in >> /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only >> way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X logins. >> This issue is

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Metzler wrote: > Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Another thing is replacing "#!/bin/sh" by "#!/bin/bash --login" in > > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only > > way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X l

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:24:55PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [somebody broke attributions here] > >> Introducing an ~/.environment which would be evaluated by pam_env would > >> really be nice. > > > Isn't /etc/environment read too? B

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> Introducing an ~/.environment which would be evaluated by pam_env would >> really be nice. > Isn't /etc/environment read too? Because that is what base-config modifies > IIRC. Yes or no ;-) Currently pam_env does read /etc/enviro

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 05:51:35PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > cat < /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60local_userenvironment > if [ -r /etc/profile ] ;then > . /etc/profile > fi > if [ -r $HOME/.profile ] ; then > . $HOME/.profile > fi > EOF > > This'll work for all display-managers that

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Another thing is replacing "#!/bin/sh" by "#!/bin/bash --login" in > /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only > way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X logins. > This issue is known for

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Joey Hess
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > E.g. in a "distribution" (better to say - custom installation CD) I maintain > here I expect users to use kppp to connect to their ISPs. To make this work > by default, I have to comment out whole contents of /etc/ppp/options during > the last stage of the installatio

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tore Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > well), as I've seen far too many packages which ask Debconf questions > way out of proportion, carelessly ignore policy 11.7.3 (cf. the "manage > with Debconf madness" thread), etc. So even though it is possible to I hope you didn't forgot to file

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
It's really good news that someone is writing on this. Since Debian is somewhat hard to install and configure for unexperienced user, but otherwise Debian is The Best :), I guess many people are doing custom Debain installation tools. > - Preconfigure the packages we install > > Using two d

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > - Installing the list of package we want > > Using meta-packages (ie packages consisting only of dependencies) > to install the packages we want. Used hooks in base-config to > get them installed during first time installation. Not too happy > ab

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson >> God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by >> various Debian packages already, IMNSHO. * Petter Reinholdtsen > There is no reason for you to get religious over this question. > > The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [...] > - Configure default language for all users > > Using a custom script to rewrite config files to modify the > default language/locale. Why not having multiple languages per user? I mean for example: 1) Fren

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tore Anderson] > God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by > various Debian packages already, IMNSHO. There is no reason for you to get religious over this question. The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all options as questions. One can like n

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:28:27 +0200 Tore Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Petter Reinholdtsen > > > - Preconfigure the packages we install > > > > I believe the best option would be to extend all the packages > > we use to make it possible to configure everything we need > >

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Petter Reinholdtsen > - Preconfigure the packages we install > > Using two different approaches: (1) Load answers into the debconf > database before the packages are installed using some home-make > scripts, and (2) rewrite/replace configuration files using > cfengine