Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:37:26AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one > time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the > slashdot.org header graphic fifty times a day. Whereas each individual > debian machine

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2001-01-04 Thread Vince Mulhollon
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Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2001-01-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:11:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why not look at this from a different perspective? I don't know if it may be > useful or not for upgrading machines, but the multicast server would be a > very nice thing for mass installations. I still disagree. Multicast is t

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-29 Thread mechanix
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 06:08:16PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > > My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole > > network of apt-geting debian boxes and after only a little work it works > > OK, b

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:39:04PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > In dpkg cvs(what will be 1.9), dpkg no longer calls an external md5sum(it also > doesn't fork for it, which it still does for the gzip above). This isn't as btw, would it be hard to add sha1 support, as an alternative for md5 (i

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Glenn McGrath | If you accidentally deleted gzip or tar how would you recover ? use sash or a rescue cd. | You couldnt build them from a source package or or extract it from a | binary package because you need both tar and gzip to extract them. nope. on my local gnu mirror, I've got tar as

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 06:12:35PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that > > is > > shared with other programs. > > Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. T

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that is > shared with other programs. Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. This increases dpkg code size. > Will we one day see a shared libdpkg, with mo

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:39:04PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > > Not quite. dpkg-deb actually does call out to tar and gzip, and lets those > > programs do what they do best. It doesn't try to be tar and gzip and dpkg > > all > > at once. The UNIX approach is to build tools that do one or a few

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and may

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Glenn McGrath
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe > > make to handl

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe > make to handle dependancies). Not quite. dpkg-deb

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread idalton
Anyway, what does apt-cache not do that you want to have happen?

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hmm. sorry to step in here, but On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole > network of apt-geting debian boxes and after only a little work it works this could also be replaced by NFS, or a small

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Vince Mulhollon
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Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 02:03:14PM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > How about an "apt-getd" debian daemon. > > Use a apt-get client to remotely mess with another workstations packages. > Messing with only one workstation at a time is boring. How about multicast > to configure a hundred workstatio

Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-27 Thread Vince Mulhollon
How about an "apt-getd" debian daemon. Use a apt-get client to remotely mess with another workstations packages. Messing with only one workstation at a time is boring. How about multicast to configure a hundred workstations instead, all at once? And then have a proxying apt-getd server multicas