Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
+ Bastian Blank (Sun, 24 May 2009 21:07:49 +0200): > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose > a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. As Philipp Kern mentioned, y

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-05-25, Mazen NEIFER wrote: > You're right, most of them don't. This just means that the stat is not > representative, but just a lower bound. I personally have an i486, > without popcon. > > In addition, think about poor countries in Africa or Asia, you will > probably find a large market

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mazen NEIFER
Le lundi 25 mai 2009 à 15:03 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > "J.A. Bezemer" writes: > > > On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > >> Hi folks > >> > >> I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > >> kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). > > [

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 25 2009 06:03:40 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How > many use a custom kernel? OTOH, none of the non-cmov i386 systems here run popcon either. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Mon May 25 15:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How > many use a custom kernel? Oh, I'm sure the numbers aren't very accurate, but I don't think that disproves his point. They're probably not going to be out by a factor of 60... Ma

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"J.A. Bezemer" writes: > On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > >> Hi folks >> >> I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux >> kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). > [..] > > Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about: > > linux-image-2.6-686

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi folks > > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). [..] Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about: linux-image-2.6-68649518 linux-image-2.6-486

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun May 24 19:41, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Hi folks > > > > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose > > a change of the default

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Philipp Hübner
Hi, Bastian Blank schrieb: > This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: > - Intel i486, > - Intel Pentium (MMX), > - AMD K5, > - AMD K6(-2, -3), Many schools are using LTSP on Debian (Edu) and have this hardware as their thinclients. Would be a shame if all those school

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > - VIA C3 before Nehemiah and > - National Semiconductor Geode (GXm, GXLV, GX1 and GX2). That affects XO-1 hardware being manufactured now, and C3s are among the viable CPUs for low cost, low dissipation "school server" style hardware. On th

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: > This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: > - Intel i486, There is new hardware sold today that is (only) compatible to the 486 SX instruction set. But it runs at 300 MHz. So it would be a pity to loose support for such hardwar

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Bastian, On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi folks > > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose > a change of the default machine type setting used by the compile

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-05-24, Bastian Blank wrote: > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose > a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. IMHO you got to explain why you want to mak

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bastian Blank may or may not have written... > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a > change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. WRT squeeze, pre- or

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread dann frazier
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi folks > > I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux > kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose > a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. > >

Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: - Intel