Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-05 Thread Elmar Heeb
> On 04 Nov 2014, at 18:38, Ian Jackson wrote: > > The Wanderer writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): >> On 11/04/2014 at 12:12 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: >>> apt-get seems to prefer actual package names to ones resulting from >>

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Ian Jackson
The Wanderer writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > On 11/04/2014 at 12:12 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > apt-get seems to prefer actual package names to ones resulting from > > stripping `+' (which is also IMO a bug). > > Can you explain wh

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/04/2014 at 12:12 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian > packaging"): > >> No. I don't think package names should be forbidden just because >> APT treats them in a special way. Otherwise you would have

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Ansgar Burchardt writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > No. I don't think package names should be forbidden just because APT > treats them in a special way. Otherwise you would have to forbid "+" and > "." anywhere in package nam

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 04.11.2014, 14:26 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > Joachim Breitner writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > > Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > > > There are probably a lot of things missing. If you

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 11/04/2014 04:39 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > The 'packagename-' syntax for 'apt-get install' and similar, and the > 'packagename+' syntax for 'apt-get remove' and similar, are so well and > so long established that I would argue against changing them at this > point. [...] > Would it be reasonable

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/04/2014 at 09:26 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Joachim Breitner writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian > packaging"): > >> Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: >> >>> There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Ian Jackson: > ... yes, trailing `-' is permitted in a package name. > > Could apt use ! or ~ or something for this purpose ? > IMHO, trailing characters are too non-obvious anyway. Also, ~ is already used in version numbers. IMHO that's too confusing. How about "apt-get install foo bar --

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Joachim Breitner writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > > There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know about some > > corner of Debian tooling which has exciting syntax, pleas

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Joachim Breitner (2014-11-03 19:12:41) > Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: >> There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know about some >> corner of Debian tooling which has exciting syntax, please add the >> information you have. > > apt-get supports a

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know about some > corner of Debian tooling which has exciting syntax, please add the > information you have. apt-get supports appending - to a package name in its argument to ins

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Stephane Chazelas
2014-11-03 15:40:46 +, Ian Jackson: > I have just made this wiki page: > https://wiki.debian.org/Punctuation [...] Just a wee note: > Character Use in Debian packaging Other important >uses [...] > ^

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Stephane Chazelas writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > Just a wee note: ... > > ^ package, name (in apt-get and other libapt-pkg old shells > > users) > [...] > > "old shells" (Thomson, Mashey, Bourne) and

Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Ian Jackson
I have just made this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/Punctuation There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know about some corner of Debian tooling which has exciting syntax, please add the information you have. I have deliberately not listed use in regexps, because regexp engines