Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-05-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Upstream-Bug-Browser: > http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=WWW-Curl > Upstream-Bug-Submitter: > http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Report.html?Queue=WWW-Curl > > Which were furiously rejected by many people, in the usual and > friendly tone c

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-05-22 Thread Martín Ferrari
In March, I proposed adding some useful (to me) fields to the control file, along this idea: Upstream-Bug-Browser: http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=WWW-Curl Upstream-Bug-Submitter: http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Report.html?Queue=WWW-Curl Which were furiously rejected by many peopl

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Martín Ferrari [Tue, Mar 18 2008, 11:51:45AM]: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It would be good if this process could be automated, however I suspect > > > this header is not the solution. > > > > Granted, but then you are speaking a

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Ralf Treinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be good if this process could be automated, however I suspect > > this header is not the solution. > > Granted, but then you are speaking about giving better tool support for > manually forwarding bugs, which

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sometimes innovation comes silent. I remember times when we > have hidden Homepage information behind 'XCBS-URL'. So why > not using > > XCBS-UpstreamBTS > > or something like that and experiment with this and se

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: XCBS-UpstreamBTS I'm opposed to this as well. Homepage and Vcs-* were almost required and provide the basic pointers about a package but the control file is not a general-purpose information file. Well,

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: >XCBS-UpstreamBTS > > or something like that and experiment with this and see how it > might evolve? I'm opposed to this as well. Homepage and Vcs-* were almost required and provide the basic pointers about a package but the control file is not a gener

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 04:29:41PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Ralf Treinen wrote: >> I do not think that automatically forwarding bugs would be a good idea. > Right now it is a pain to forward a bug, say to a sourceforge bug > report, because it involves several steps: [...] > It would be good if

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Christian Perrier wrote: without preventing innovative initiatives such as this one Sometimes innovation comes silent. I remember times when we have hidden Homepage information behind 'XCBS-URL'. So why not using XCBS-UpstreamBTS or something like that and exper

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-18 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Neil Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Please can this 'trend' be stopped here and now? > > The Packages.gz file is already enormous (especially for Emdebian > purposes or other low resource units) and adding yet more fields to Couldn't there be an opportunity somewhere to have some possib

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 4. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] marking the bug as forwarded. > 5. Wait for response (seems to take ages), fix any errors that > occurred, go back to step 4. > > Generally, I always seem to find new and exciting ways of stuffing up > step 4 (e.g.

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Brian May
Ralf Treinen wrote: I do not think that automatically forwarding bugs would be a good idea. Right now it is a pain to forward a bug, say to a sourceforge bug report, because it involves several steps: 1. Log into sourceforge 2. Create bug report, copy link to Debian bug report into it.

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, gregor herrmann wrote: > Maybe a better place for Tincho's idea would be an (optional) > debian/bugtracker file (similar to debian/watch). An important concern is that these sorts of files don't actually change with the source package, they change whenever the upstream changes

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:01:30 +, Neil Williams wrote: > > I appreciate the strive to make Debian work on small machines, but it > > is reasonable to put their constraints on the whole project? > IMHO the Packages.gz file is already too large for my standard Debian > machines! I see this point

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 12:16 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please can this 'trend' be stopped here and now? > > > > The Packages.gz file is already enormous (especially for Emdebian > > purposes or other low resourc

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
"Martín Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The Packages.gz file is already enormous (especially for Emdebian >> purposes or other low resource units) and adding yet more fields to >> debian/control is really not

Re: Proposing a new field in the source control data (was: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs)

2008-03-17 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those pieces of data are called "fields". Just like in RFC2822 > messages or HTTP responses. Thanks for the correction. I always think of headers, because one usually refers to rfc2822 "fields" as "headers", I didn't know

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Martín Ferrari
(reply-to as requested) On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It could be used to automatically forward bugs, > > I don't think bugs should be forwarded automatically. See my previous mail, I did choose the wrong word here. > > track which bugs are open t

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Martín Ferrari
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please can this 'trend' be stopped here and now? > > The Packages.gz file is already enormous (especially for Emdebian > purposes or other low resource units) and adding yet more fields to > debian/control is really no

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Martín Ferrari
Trying to answer some of the problems pointed out to my proposal... On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that if the goal is to support automated tools, pointing to > straight web pages isn't particularly useful without some additional > informatio

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 02:38 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Dear -devel: > > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug t

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:38:19AM -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug trackers. I

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-17 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:38:19AM -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Dear -devel: > > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstrea

Proposing a new field in the source control data (was: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs)

2008-03-17 Thread Ben Finney
"Martín Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug trackers. Those pieces of d

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 02:38 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Dear -devel: > > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug t

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Martín Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
"Martín Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to upstream > bug trackers. > > It could be used

Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread Martín Ferrari
Dear -devel: Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to upstream bug trackers. It could be used to automatically forward bugs, track which