Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-02-19 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:32:33AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:48:24AM -0500, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib > > will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of that

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:56:09PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I've done that sort of X configuration hacking to make imake install > things in appropriate locations and use the right compilers in the past. > It's not fun work; it's painful, tedious, and exceedingly boring, and I > wouldn't recomm

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:48:33AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > David Nusinow wrote: > > Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib > > will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of that is > > that the new xterm package installs to /usr/bin rather than

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:32:33AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:48:24AM -0500, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib > > will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of that

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:54:54PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and > > /usr/lib will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of > > that is that the new xterm package installs

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:55:00AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > There is some software that contains hardcoded paths to executables in > /usr/bin/X11; for example, sshd hardcodes the path to > /usr/bin/X11/xauth. sshd stats whatever it thinks is the location of > xauth to find out whether it can do

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:22:24PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: >Because the remainder of the Xorg 7.0 packages will require this change > to have taken place, they will have to pre-depend upon an appropriate > version of x11-common. As such, I'm writing to the list in accordance with > policy.

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Imake is considered dead-except-for-routine-maintenance upstream as far > as I can tell, so best practice would be to migrate away from it. > Unless someone plans to adopt it. imake the program, and xmkmf, are *probably* not that horribly difficult t

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Russ Allbery wrote: > Here's a list of packages that install binaries into /usr/X11R6/bin and > don't have lintian overrides for it. In spot checks, about a quarter of > these packages use imake. And that's just the packages with binaries; > there are a number of other packages that don't install

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes: > Debian GCC Maintainers >gcc-snapshot no. must be a false positive. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Joey Hess
Matthias Klose wrote: > Joey Hess writes: > > Debian GCC Maintainers > >gcc-snapshot > > no. must be a false positive. Yes, didn't anchor the pattern and it matched stuff in /usr/lib/gcc-snapshot/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/ -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yep. > Imake is still being shipped for the benefit of third-party packages, > but it is not used by anything in Xorg 7.0 IIRC. Doing a quick check, I > think very few if any other packages in Debian use imake. I think you should perhaps check a li

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Russ Allbery wrote: > (Or is > imake going away completely?) Yep. Imake is still being shipped for the benefit of third-party packages, but it is not used by anything in Xorg 7.0 IIRC. Doing a quick check, I think very few if any other packages in Debian use imake. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:15:23AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > David Nusinow wrote: > > Currently, it fakes FHS compliancy by creating various > > symlinks (/usr/include/X11, /usr/bin/X11, /usr/lib/X11) to the appropriate > > directories in /usr/X11R6. For 7.0, we need to make those symlinks become >

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
David Nusinow wrote: > As far as I understand it, this is simply grandfathered in. I'm not that up > on the FHS details though, so I may be wrong. Remember also that this isn't > X11R6 any more, but X11R7. Ok, /usr/X11R7 would probably violate either the spirit or the letter of the FHS (probably n

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:48:24AM -0500, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib > will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of that is > that the new xterm package installs to /usr/bin rather than /us

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
[David Nusinow] > As far as I understand it, this is simply grandfathered in. I'm not > that up on the FHS details though, so I may be wrong. Remember also > that this isn't X11R6 any more, but X11R7. Branden toyed with the idea of setting ProjectRoot to /usr when packaging XFree86 4.0. I was so

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Russ Allbery
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:15:23AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: >> David Nusinow wrote: >>> Currently, it fakes FHS compliancy by creating various symlinks >>> (/usr/include/X11, /usr/bin/X11, /usr/lib/X11) to the appropriate >>> directories in /usr/X11R6. Fo

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:15:23AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > David Nusinow wrote: > >One of the changes happening for Xorg 7.0 is that it will finally become > > FHS compliant. > > FWIW, the FHS 2.1 specifies /usr/X11R6 in section 4.1. I can't see > anything FHS-incompliant about the current s

Re: Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
David Nusinow wrote: >One of the changes happening for Xorg 7.0 is that it will finally become > FHS compliant. FWIW, the FHS 2.1 specifies /usr/X11R6 in section 4.1. I can't see anything FHS-incompliant about the current setup. > Currently, it fakes FHS compliancy by creating various > symli

Pre-Depends for Xorg 7.0

2006-01-22 Thread David Nusinow
Hi all, One of the changes happening for Xorg 7.0 is that it will finally become FHS compliant. Currently, it fakes FHS compliancy by creating various symlinks (/usr/include/X11, /usr/bin/X11, /usr/lib/X11) to the appropriate directories in /usr/X11R6. For 7.0, we need to make those symlinks bec